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Old 09-21-2012, 11:04 PM
 
Location: Lewes, Delaware
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Do the republicans realize how easy this election should be? Romney should win by a landslide but he won't unless Obama does something so dumb, like Dubya dumb its unimaginable.

Do the republicans realize this group, isn't 47% of black people or Hispanics or even whites. It's 47% of Americans who don't pay federal income tax because they don't make enough money.

Let's take a high number of those who are loads and will be on welfare forever cause they are too lazy to work let's say 32%. Guess what? that's 15% of people who may have lost their job due to the recession and are now working on 2nd careers, because they were to proud to take unemployment or because they just want to support their family any way they can. Yes believe it or not some these folks are struggling to put food on the table and the republicans, instead of reaching out to them saying (lying) " we are gonna do our best to make sure you can climb out of this hole, we will bring jobs back to the USA" You ( republicans bash them at every turn. PEveryone knows republicans and democrats don't care about these folks, but the democrats don't demoralize them for months on end.

Wanna know why Obama has talked about raising taxes on people who make more than $250,000.? Cause a very small percentage of Americans make more than $250,000, and their vote counts the same as someone making $50,000.

Republicans have the policies, just the wrong leaders. How many trillions of dollars in debt has Obama racked up and this election might be close? Freakin joke.

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Old 09-22-2012, 12:25 AM
 
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Do the republicans realize how easy this election should be? Romney should win by a landslide but he won't unless Obama does something so dumb, like Dubya dumb its unimaginable.

Do the republicans realize this group, isn't 47% of black people or Hispanics or even whites. It's 47% of Americans who don't pay federal income tax because they don't make enough money.

Let's take a high number of those who are loads and will be on welfare forever cause they are too lazy to work let's say 32%. Guess what? that's 15% of people who may have lost their job due to the recession and are now working on 2nd careers, because they were to proud to take unemployment or because they just want to support their family any way they can. Yes believe it or not some these folks are struggling to put food on the table and the republicans, instead of reaching out to them saying (lying) " we are gonna do our best to make sure you can climb out of this hole, we will bring jobs back to the USA" You ( republicans bash them at every turn. PEveryone knows republicans and democrats don't care about these folks, but the democrats don't demoralize them for months on end.

Wanna know why Obama has talked about raising taxes on people who make more than $250,000.? Cause a very small percentage of Americans make more than $250,000, and their vote counts the same as someone making $50,000.

Republicans have the policies, just the wrong leaders. How many trillions of dollars in debt has Obama racked up and this election might be close? Freakin joke.
The media has blown this WAY out of proportion. He was talking at a fundraiser about political strategy. He simply stated that he didn't expect to get the votes of a certain demographic. This is not one bit different than Obama strategizing that he has the gay vote, the black vote, etc. It's no different that either or them choosing not to campaign in a state that's a shoe-in for the other candidate. That's all he was saying.

The fact is, for the past ten days the media has been desperate to save Obama's presidency and tried to hide his total failure as a leader. That tape of Romney was made months ago, so chances are they were holding it for a week when they needed it. They wanted America to hear the sound of that clip so they wouldn't notice the images of Obama's total failure.

Barack Hussein Obama in the last two weeks:
Went to Vegas to campaign

Visited with famous singers for a fundraiser

Laughed it up with David Letterman
During the same couple of weeks he:
Failed to recognize a terrorist attack at the U.S. Embassy on the anniversary of 9/11 and stated that it was "natural protests" due to a youtube video. (Did anyone see them burning youtube's logo? No. They burned the American flag. Did anyone see them trying to kill the person who did the video? No. They killed the U.S. Ambassador to Libya and 3 others.)

Declined to meet with the Isreali Prime Minister in their time of utmost crisis

Filmed an apology video with $70,000 of our money to apologize to Libya that some unknown person posted something to YouTube that hurt some murderers' feelings

Didn't comment when pictures showed the dead body of the U.S. Ambassador being dragged through the streets of Libya and the liberal media reported they were only trying to help him.

Continued to stay in his usual campaign mode while the protests in the Middle East got worse and worse.
There are probably other things that could be added, but I'm tired.

September 20, 2012




I won't post a picture of the dead ambassador, but it's on this link. His lips are blue, which happens when you die. And if they were really trying to help him, they would be handling him gently rather than dragging him, pulling his arm, etc. This is just sick that anyone would take up for those animals. Why is Obama more concerned with apologizing to them than anything else? Wake up people! This is not about gaffes. This is about serious flaws in Obama's character and leadership! http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012...assador-libya/

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Old 09-22-2012, 12:38 AM
 
Location: Holiday, FL
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The media has blown this WAY out of proportion. He was talking at a fundraiser about political strategy. He simply stated that he didn't expect to get the votes of a certain demographic. This is not one bit different than Obama strategizing that he has the gay vote, the black vote, etc. It's no different that either or them choosing not to campaign in a state that's a shoe-in for the other candidate. That's all he was saying.

The fact is, for the past ten days the media has been desperate to save Obama's presidency and tried to hide his total failure as a leader. That tape of Romney was made months ago, so chances are they were holding it for a week when they needed it. They wanted America to hear the sound of that clip so they wouldn't notice the images of Obama's total failure.

Barack Hussein Obama in the last two weeks:
Went to Vegas to campaign

Visited with famous singers for a fundraiser

Laughed it up with David Letterman
During the same couple of weeks he:
Failed to recognize a terrorist attack at the U.S. Embassy on the anniversary of 9/11 and stated that it was "natural protests" due to a youtube video. (Did anyone see them burning youtube's logo? No. They burned the American flag. Did anyone see them trying to kill the person who did the video? No. They killed the U.S. Ambassador to Libya and 3 others.)

Declined to meet with the Isreali Prime Minister in their time of utmost crisis

Filmed an apology video with $70,000 of our money to apologize to Libya that some unknown person posted something to YouTube that hurt some murderers' feelings

Didn't comment when pictures showed the dead body of the U.S. Ambassador being dragged through the streets of Libya and the liberal media reported they were only trying to help him.

Continued to stay in his usual campaign mode while the protests in the Middle East got worse and worse.
There are probably other things that could be added, but I'm tired.

September 20, 2012
Sorry, but I don't think it was being blown out of proportion. Forget about the percentage "not paying taxes, because there are quite a number of those in that 47% that actually do pay taxes. When someone speaks of a percentage that "feel they are entitled", There are a substantial percentage of Americans that are collecting food stamps, and that's part of the 47% he referred to. And, he's also wrong about the "entitled" as well. Many of those that are collecting those benefits are doing so because the economy gave them little choice. During better economic times, they would not be taking food stamps. They'd be working and collecting a paycheck. So, Romney has the wrong attitude when he lumps all into a group of 47%. And, if you've been paying attention, someone must have started coaching him, because he's been BACK-PEDDLING pretty seriously.

Unfortunately, what I need to hear to back a candidate is something I'm not hearing from either one. Neither one of them has a good answer to the economy. We're screwed either way, so the only choice we have to trying not to get the worst screwing available.
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Old 09-22-2012, 12:49 AM
 
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Unfortunately, what I need to hear to back a candidate is something I'm not hearing from either one. Neither one of them has a good answer to the economy. We're screwed either way, so the only choice we have to trying not to get the worst screwing available.
Sounds like your back peddling your statements. This is typical of a brainwashed Democrat. They argue Republicans and Mitt Romney are this and this and this and when you point how their savior Obama has done the same and worse, they back pedal with "None of the candidates have a good answer to the economy. We're screwed either way." So we weren't screwed before someone pointed out the hypocrisies of your beloved president? Pathetic. Brainwashing is a powerful tool folks.
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Old 09-22-2012, 05:31 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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And who attended the 47% bashing party? ...

Who Was at Romney's "47 Percent" Fundraiser? | Mother Jones
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Old 09-22-2012, 05:57 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Unfortunately, what I need to hear to back a candidate is something I'm not hearing from either one. Neither one of them has a good answer to the economy. We're screwed either way, so the only choice we have to trying not to get the worst screwing available.
That isn't exactly true. Mr. Romney's plan is to slash taxes, with the bulk going to the upper-brackets, and slashing entitlement programs, while raising taxes on the lowest 20%; and cutting regulations. None of those things have any hope of improving the economy.

On the other hand, Mr. Obama embraces expansionary polices. His jobs bill that got stonewalled by the Republicans would add 1.3 million jobs. Granting or lending money to the States at 1% would reverse the decline in state and local public employment, which is the only employment area that is still depressed.

So, between the two, only Obama has a plan that's viable.

On taxes, there is stark differences, that Ezra Klein displays graphically:

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Old 09-22-2012, 06:40 AM
 
Location: Cape Coral
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Romney's tax plan will cut income taxes for all taxpayers by 20%:

Individual income tax rates decline by 20 percent, as shown:


Current Rate 10% 15% 25% 28% 33% 35%
New Rate 8% 12% 20% 22.4% 26.4% 28%

In addition:
1. Gov. Romney would also permanently repeal the 0.9 percent tax on wages and the 3.8 percent tax on investment income of high-income individual taxpayers that were imposed by the 2010 health reform legislation and are scheduled to take effect in 2013.
2. At the corporate level, the Romney plan would make two major changes: 1) reduce the corporate income tax rate from 35 to 25 percent and 2) make the research and experimentation credit permanent, It would also extend for one year the full expensing of capital expenditures and allow a “tax holiday” for the repatriation of corporate profits held overseas. In the longer run, Gov. Romney would reduce the corporate rate further in conjunction with base broadening and simplification and would move the corporate tax to a territorial system.

Obama's "expansionary" policy is just more of the same. Spending money we don't have and giving most of it to his supporters in government unions. It will increase taxes on the poor and middle class through Obamacare taxes and in the cruelest way of all, through inflation. We have already seen huge increases in food and gasoline prices under Obama's "expansionary" policy. As we have seen from his first stimulus "expansionary" policy, it does not create jobs and barely nudges the economy. But it does burden our children and grandchildren with paying for our generation's spending.

Romney's plan will put more money in consumers pockets, keep inflation under check, entice corporations to repatriate billions of dollars from overseas to put to work in this country and give clear policy for business to make decisions and invest. If Romney is elected you will see vigorous economic growth like we saw after the Reagan tax cuts.
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Old 09-22-2012, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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Romney's tax plan will cut income taxes for all taxpayers by 20%:

Individual income tax rates decline by 20 percent, as shown:


Current Rate 10% 15% 25% 28% 33% 35%
New Rate 8% 12% 20% 22.4% 26.4% 28%

In addition:
1. Gov. Romney would also permanently repeal the 0.9 percent tax on wages and the 3.8 percent tax on investment income of high-income individual taxpayers that were imposed by the 2010 health reform legislation and are scheduled to take effect in 2013.
2. At the corporate level, the Romney plan would make two major changes: 1) reduce the corporate income tax rate from 35 to 25 percent and 2) make the research and experimentation credit permanent, It would also extend for one year the full expensing of capital expenditures and allow a “tax holiday” for the repatriation of corporate profits held overseas. In the longer run, Gov. Romney would reduce the corporate rate further in conjunction with base broadening and simplification and would move the corporate tax to a territorial system.

Obama's "expansionary" policy is just more of the same. Spending money we don't have and giving most of it to his supporters in government unions. It will increase taxes on the poor and middle class through Obamacare taxes and in the cruelest way of all, through inflation. We have already seen huge increases in food and gasoline prices under Obama's "expansionary" policy. As we have seen from his first stimulus "expansionary" policy, it does not create jobs and barely nudges the economy. But it does burden our children and grandchildren with paying for our generation's spending.

Romney's plan will put more money in consumers pockets, keep inflation under check, entice corporations to repatriate billions of dollars from overseas to put to work in this country and give clear policy for business to make decisions and invest. If Romney is elected you will see vigorous economic growth like we saw after the Reagan tax cuts.
You call a non Governor Governor and skip the President's title.

PS. Romney has a good plan - reducing taxes is W1N. Taxes under Obama were the lowest in 40 years.
Romney wants to improve that....and increase spending. And has not said where's he's going to get the money. So his plan is fuu of good stuff and the unknown.
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Old 09-22-2012, 09:23 AM
 
Location: None of your business
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Many of those that are collecting those benefits are doing so because the economy gave them little choice. During better economic times, they would not be taking food stamps. They'd be working and collecting a paycheck.
You are right about that. Obama failed to reduce unemployment and Obama's economy forced them onto welfare.
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Old 09-22-2012, 09:30 AM
 
Location: None of your business
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You call a non Governor Governor and skip the President's title.

PS. Romney has a good plan - reducing taxes is W1N. Taxes under Obama were the lowest in 40 years.
Romney wants to improve that....and increase spending. And has not said where's he's going to get the money. So his plan is fuu of good stuff and the unknown.
As apposed to Obama's plan:

Obama plans to raise taxes on "millionaires and billionaires. According to Obama if you don't happen to be a millionaire or billionaire, you don't have to worry. But the numbers say otherwise. They start with people with incomes of $250,000 and up, small business owners or independent professionals. That is more than most people make, but it is far short of a million dollars. Bait-and-switch advertising is exactly what President Obama is doing with his proposed tax increases on "millionaires and billionaires".

Genuine millionaires and billionaires have the least likelihood of actually paying the higher tax rates and will escape high tax rates by investing in other countries therefore those high tax rates are driving jobs overseas.

Ironically, millionaires and billionaires may have the least to lose from higher tax rates on "the rich." But Obama has the most to gain from class warfare rhetoric that wins votes from gullible people.

Millionaires and Billionaires are not hurt, Obama wins the class warfare vote and the middle class are screwed again.
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