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Old 09-30-2012, 09:48 AM
 
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So when Obama is re-elected and I fully expect him to win what conclusions can we draw?


1. He has increased the welfare state and dependency on the government far more than any other President in recent times. If you didnt work and he gave you free things wouldnt you vote for him? Woud you care what the unemployment rate was?

2. The population is dumber. The hero worship on this guy is like nothing Ive ever seen before. The unemployment rate is higher than when he took office. Sad...
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Old 09-30-2012, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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We still have some time. The BLS just found 368,000 jobs. WARN notices will be delayed for government contract workers. The workforce is declining.

Then again, there's more "free stuff" for those who are unemployed/underemployed so who knows.
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Old 09-30-2012, 09:55 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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so all we have to do is cut taxes on the wealthy "job creators" and everything will be fixed............awesome!
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Old 09-30-2012, 09:58 AM
 
Location: West Egg
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So when Obama is re-elected and I fully expect him to win what conclusions can we draw?

1. He has increased the welfare state and dependency on the government far more than any other President in recent times. If you didnt work and he gave you free things wouldnt you vote for him? Woud you care what the unemployment rate was?

2. The population is dumber. The hero worship on this guy is like nothing Ive ever seen before. The unemployment rate is higher than when he took office. Sad...
Fact -- you're wrong.

Why do you people keep repeating this nonsense? I'll tell you why -- because you heard it and you assume it's right. You've never bothered to actually research it for yourselves. It sounds good to you, so you buy it hook line and sinker.

That's what you do -- you regurgitate talking points without having any idea whether or not they're true.

So, let me educate you.

In 1940 the unemployment rate was at 14.6% and Roosevelt won re-election. In 1936 the unemployment was at 16.6% and, again, Roosevelt won re-election.

On the Maddeningly Inexact Relationship Between Unemployment and Re-Election - NYTimes.com

PS - I love the irony of you whining about how dumb the population is while you cluelessly repeat demonstrably false information!
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Old 09-30-2012, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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so all we have to do is cut taxes on the wealthy "job creators" and everything will be fixed............awesome!
Actually what is happening next year is that business will pay more tax. We'll see how that works out for job creation.
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Old 09-30-2012, 10:00 AM
 
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so all we have to do is cut taxes on the wealthy "job creators" and everything will be fixed............awesome!


No.. Raise taxes back to the Clinton era rates and cut spending aggressively. Getting out of debt requires a two pronged approached. Obama didnt have the backbone to put those responsible for the financial calamity in jail. Obama didnt have the backbone to stop allowing Goldman Sachs to be his largest campaign contributer. Obama didnt have the backbone like Clinton to raise taxes because he wants to get re-elected . Obama didnt have the backbone like Clinton to cut spending aggressively. Obama didnt have the backbone to call what happened a few weeks back a terrorist attack which it was. Obama is just a tragic figure and not worthy of the title he holds. He is a do nothing hack
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Old 09-30-2012, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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No.. Raise taxes back to the Clinton era rates and cut spending aggressively. Getting out of debt requires a two pronged approached. Obama didnt have the backbone to put those responsible for the financial calamity in jail. Obama didnt have the backbone to stop allowing Goldman Sachs to be his largest campaign contributer. Obama didnt have the backbone like Clinton to raise taxes because he wants to get re-elected . Obama didnt have the backbone like Clinton to cut spending aggressively. Obama didnt have the backbone to call what happened a few weeks back a terrorist attack which it was. Obama is just a tragic figure and not worthy of the title he holds. He is a do nothing hack
But is his figure as tragic as the guy below you proving your "Fact" wrong and your inability to admit it?

How can we trust your opinion of Obama? Maybe that fact is as good as your other fact? In other words, totally wrong.
Going on statistics, you're zero/100 percent good on correct facts.
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Old 09-30-2012, 10:08 AM
 
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Fact -- you're wrong.

Why do you people keep repeating this nonsense? I'll tell you why -- because you heard it and you assume it's right. You've never bothered to actually research it for yourselves. It sounds good to you, so you buy it hook line and sinker.

That's what you do -- you regurgitate talking points without having any idea whether or not they're true.

So, let me educate you.

In 1940 the unemployment rate was at 14.6% and Roosevelt won re-election. In 1936 the unemployment was at 16.6% and, again, Roosevelt won re-election.

On the Maddeningly Inexact Relationship Between Unemployment and Re-Election - NYTimes.com

PS - I love the irony of you whining about how dumb the population is while you cluelessly repeat demonstrably false information!




The real unemployment rate is 23% TODAY. The real unemployment rate is cited in that liberal ny rag article you have cut and paste . The unemployment rate was 7.5 % back then if you measure it with the same metrics that Obamas 8.2 % is measured with. As I was saying before uneducated Obama voters, or at the least intellectually dishonest. Additionally the unemployment rate was lower for Roosevelt than it was when he took office. The same cant be said for Obama. For some reason you forgot to mention that Are you factoring in the unemployment 'participation rate' as well.. I didnt think so. Good try sport.

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Old 09-30-2012, 10:14 AM
 
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But is his figure as tragic as the guy below you proving your "Fact" wrong and your inability to admit it?

How can we trust your opinion of Obama? Maybe that fact is as good as your other fact? In other words, totally wrong.
Going on statistics, you're zero/100 percent good on correct facts.

Apparently one of your liberal friends cuts and pastes an article and you take it at face value. Sad.. You didnt even bother to ask whether the unemployment rate cited in his article was the 'real' unemployment rate or not. A nice proxy indeed for the blind hero worship exercised by Obama Husseins followers.
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Old 09-30-2012, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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So when Obama is re-elected and I fully expect him to win what conclusions can we draw?


1. He has increased the welfare state and dependency on the government far more than any other President in recent times. If you didnt work and he gave you free things wouldnt you vote for him? Woud you care what the unemployment rate was?

2. The population is dumber. The hero worship on this guy is like nothing Ive ever seen before. The unemployment rate is higher than when he took office. Sad...
100%+ correct.

Gibme gibme gibme. That's all his supporters know.
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