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Old 10-17-2012, 01:16 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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It is not every woman's wish. I'm sure those without small kids are not very happy they have to work harder because the "office mommies" left early to cook for their husbands and children.
Oh really?

You really claim that my mother was working in an office while raising myself and my sister?

The fact is that she was operating a metal lathe during that period - and my father was working at an oil refinery.

You liberals constantly demonstrate your ignorance - and make yourself seem ridiculous by impeaching your own credibilty with your biased and innacurate statements about conservatives.

Are you sure that you aren't smoking something?

 
Old 10-17-2012, 01:22 AM
 
Location: the AZ desert
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WTF??

Romney, say goodbye to the female vote
You think this is better? (That's a rhetorical question.)

Obama touts fair pay for women, despite records showing women paid less in his own White House
 
Old 10-17-2012, 01:27 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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It is not every woman's wish. I'm sure those without small kids are not very happy they have to work harder because the "office mommies" left early to cook for their husbands and children.

I don't support any special treatment for anyone(men, women, alien whatever) except for maternity leave, and only because newborns need to be fed every 2 or 3 hours.
Women without children are abused in the work placed by women who do have children. I worked in an office where mommies did get special treatment and it wasn't because they had to go home to cook dinner. Long lunch hours because they had to do school shopping and christmas shopping. They would go to lunch, come back to the office and leave "early" 3 hours early for a doctor's appointment, school clothes shopping (totally unrelated to child care). Whatever happened to doing it on your own time - after work or on the weekend? And in their absence people like me, who didn't have children, were expected by them and the employer to take on their workload. I didn't get any compensation for that in time or money. It was pretty much expected that women who didn't have small children should understand those that did and help out.

As far as the 2/3 hour feeding - use a bottle or a pump, or take a leave of absence. Or find a job where they have a nursery on site. How a mother feeds her infant is her problem.
 
Old 10-17-2012, 01:31 AM
 
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And you continue to make my points that your father is an anomoly.
Psst, Leave it to Beaver was earlier than the 70s. I know, I was alive then.
So every woman is your step-mother.
Got it.
Don't you think that you father makes the relationship he chooses.
Women didn't really have that option in the past.
I am not talking about the 70's. Heck, I wasn't even born until 79.

WTH are you talking about? Having working father who cooks and requires you do to chores around the house is not an anomaly. Are you really this bereft from reality?

Of course not every woman is my step mother. Plus, my father is responsible for his relationships. The idea that my step mother did not have the choice to be a stay at home mother who had the privilege of husband who cooked for her and a stepson to clean and do chores is beyond absurd. Your implication that this is an undesirable thing is beyond ludicrous, making me assume that you are ungrateful, just like my step mother.

As someone else said, you want your cake and eat it to, but want someone else to bake it.
 
Old 10-17-2012, 01:39 AM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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He is right - there will be enough jobs for everyone.

Especially if they live in China or in a country where the labor is cheap
 
Old 10-17-2012, 01:41 AM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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If a person thinks that they should be paid more, then they should demonstrate their worthiness to the employer and ask for it.

If a pay raise is denyed - then they are free to find somewhere else to work where they will be paid what they think they should earn - or to start their own business.

The government has no business regulating what a private business pays its employees. Negotiations for compensation should take place between labor and management. If a particular worker doesn't like their wage or salary - they are free to ask for more money or to find other employment.

It is real simple.

It sure must be nice to be on top of the food chain
 
Old 10-17-2012, 01:42 AM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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Great. Then stop supporting people who demonize Republican women for cooking for their families and nurturing them.

That is family values in a nutshell.

But democrats think that is baddddd...

What?

Their "family values" are fine if they would keep them to themselves and try not force them on everyone else
 
Old 10-17-2012, 01:45 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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I haven't made any claims about any conservatives. My problem is with Romney's word choice and those who assume only women are in charge of the kitchen. That to me are not family values, both husband and wife should work equally at home.
He never claimed as such. You can easily re-watch the debate on Youtube and understand this. I know - because I watched the debate live. (on cable TV). I know what Romney said - and your presentation is innacurate. So - I hope that you watch a recording of the debate on YouTube or C-SPAN so that you know the truth.

I hope that you either didn't watch the debate coming from a biased background, or just were influenced by those who did whom fed you an innacurate version.

If you did watch it - you will know - or if you do some good research - you will learn the truth - that the stories that you have heard are perpetuated by the liberals and Democrats who shamelessly support President Obama, and that most sane people support Governor Romney.
 
Old 10-17-2012, 01:47 AM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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The only two states I have lived in are "blue" states.

I am quite thin. In fact I have posted here in this forum about how I must seem like the stereotypical "gangbanger", because I wear white t-shirts, blue jeans(that are "baggy" because I weigh too little for my height), have a "shaved" head(its more convenient - especially since I began going bald when I was 19), and wear hooded sweatshirts(my nickname among friends is the "Unabomber" - because of my Halloween costume).

The Unabomber was a Democrat - or at least expoused socialist principles.

I wear collared t-shirts when appropriate and look like "composite" sketches of bank robbers on TV.

I must be a product of my "blue" state homes - but why am I so thin? . I don't use drugs - though I advocate for the legalization of marijuana.

I have never smoked a joint - nor have I snorted cocaine - like the president has.

For the record - I support the legalization of both.

The government should not tell people what they can or can't put in their own body.

The death penalty should be abolished - which I will vote to do in California in November.

Everybody should register as a Republican.

Why would I go against my best interest? Why would I support the same people that is willing to sterotype my as a "thug" or my wife as a "welfare queen"? The republican party has become a bunch of crazy white religious nut jobs with a few confused poor minorities and poor folks in the mix.
 
Old 10-17-2012, 01:55 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Why would I go against my best interest? Why would I support the same people that is willing to sterotype my as a "thug" or my wife as a "welfare queen"? The republican party has become a bunch of crazy white religious nut jobs with a few confused poor minorities and poor folks in the mix.
For the record - myself as a registered Republican have never stereotyped you as what you said "I have done".

That is largely because I know very little about you.

Would you like to describe why I should describe you as a "thug", or your wife as a "welfare queen".

I mean, do you actually act as such - or are people "red-assing" you without just cause.

I want to know, brother - because I wan't to do the right thing.

Anyone who has mischaracterized you will incur my wrath.

I don't mess aroud unless you **** me off.
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