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Old 12-12-2012, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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What positions has she taken that make her attractive as a Republican and conservative candidate?
She was GW Bush's lap dog. She was the Russia expert who wrecked relations with Russia. She was the worst S of S in living memory.

Yep, she sounds just like some one the GOP would think would make a great president.
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Old 12-12-2012, 08:49 AM
 
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She would not win the GOP nomination, but she'd win the general if she was somehow nominated by the GOP.

Kinda like Gary Johnson or Ron Paul, they'd be able to win all GOP votes and they'd be able to steal independents and even some Democrats/Libertarians with their views.
She can't win a general election for POTUS!! LMAO...i mean, not no but HELL NO! She'd be shockingly weak.

Look, i've got nothing against Rice, but i don't get all the Republican love for her. They don't even know what she believes in.
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Old 12-12-2012, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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She can't win a general election for POTUS!! LMAO...i mean, not no but HELL NO! She'd be shockingly weak.

Look, i've got nothing against Rice, but i don't get all the Republican love for her. They don't even know what she believes in.
believe it or not, it isn't the Republicans that keep bringing her up or not the majority of them, we don't have a love for her. yes, she is articulate, smart and knows her way around, but I don't see her as one of the GOPs favorite stars right now.
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Old 12-12-2012, 09:39 AM
 
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She would not win the GOP nomination, but she'd win the general if she was somehow nominated by the GOP.

Kinda like Gary Johnson or Ron Paul, they'd be able to win all GOP votes and they'd be able to steal independents and even some Democrats/Libertarians with their views.
I agree with this.
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Old 12-12-2012, 09:50 AM
 
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She can't win a general election for POTUS!! LMAO...i mean, not no but HELL NO! She'd be shockingly weak.

Look, i've got nothing against Rice, but i don't get all the Republican love for her. They don't even know what she believes in.
But that's the whole point. When it gets to the general election they line up behind party regardless.

Heck, look how many dems around here have said they don't like some of Obama's policies but he's better than Romney. Or vice versa?

I think that you could run a turnip for president and they'd still get a whole lot of votes just because of party loyalty.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Never claimed they were similar in any way.

But the GOP's lack of enthusiasm for both is much the same.
I didn't take it the way you meant it, well I did, to a degree, but my point, the GOP would get behind her much sooner than Paul. She is more mainstream...I also agree, the enthusiasm for her is not strong enough to make her a credible candidate. Plus she has no desire to run in the first place or so it appears..
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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She would not win the GOP nomination, but she'd win the general if she was somehow nominated by the GOP.

Kinda like Gary Johnson or Ron Paul, they'd be able to win all GOP votes and they'd be able to steal independents and even some Democrats/Libertarians with their views.
Ron Paul: if he had won the nomination he would have been an interesting candidate and though I doubt he would have won, he would have had a lot of support from all sides. As for Gary Johnson, he would have gone nowhere, absolutely nowhere. I lived in NM when he was governor, he was popular and had some good ideas, but he isn't the type to attract national attention at all. For one thing, he has no personality :whether we like it or not, that plays into the picture. For the most part his views and Paul's views were not all that similar...Paul is much more extreme....
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:38 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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She can't win a general election for POTUS!! LMAO...i mean, not no but HELL NO! She'd be shockingly weak.

Look, i've got nothing against Rice, but i don't get all the Republican love for her. They don't even know what she believes in.
If she won the GOP nomination, all the GOP sheep would automatically vote for her, so that's 40%.
Then she'd win a small portion of blacks and women who normally are loyal to the Democrats, so that's like 45-50%, and essentially the win right there.

Her home state being California and being a black woman might allow her to be the first Republican to carry California since Bush in 1988. Carrying California would guarantee a GOP victory.

She may not have been a good Secretary of State and may not be a strong candidate, but that doesn't matter in a general election. All that matters is that the bottom 20% of people on the intelligence scale prefer voting for the black woman over the white man, if that's the case. If the GOP nominates Condi and the Democrats nominate a white man, it's a guarantee that Condi wins.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:43 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Ron Paul: if he had won the nomination he would have been an interesting candidate and though I doubt he would have won, he would have had a lot of support from all sides. As for Gary Johnson, he would have gone nowhere, absolutely nowhere. I lived in NM when he was governor, he was popular and had some good ideas, but he isn't the type to attract national attention at all. For one thing, he has no personality :whether we like it or not, that plays into the picture. For the most part his views and Paul's views were not all that similar...Paul is much more extreme....

Paul is a loony toon, but his views would bring the ultra-liberals over to the GOP simply because he is anti-war and anti-prohibition.

Johnson doesn't have charisma, which is why he was completely ignored in favor of idiots and nutjobs like Perry, Santorum, Bachmann and Cain, but if he somehow won the nomination his position on marijuana alone would win him the election. GOP voters wouldn't switch and vote for a Democrat, but many Democrats would see his positions on drugs (and his own admitted use of medical marijuana) and vote for him because of that.

Either way, they'd be better candidates than Romney to win the hearts and minds of the opposition, and that's what the GOP needs to do desperately. They will vanish if they continue to elect old white guys who come from money as they've done for the past 4 elections.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:45 AM
 
Location: ridgetop tn / nikiski ak
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It would depend upon the media...they 100% make and break the candidates.





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