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Old 12-12-2012, 11:02 AM
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How is a gay, pro-choice black woman going to make it through the Teapublican primary process?
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Old 12-12-2012, 11:03 AM
 
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If she won the GOP nomination, all the GOP sheep would automatically vote for her, so that's 40%. Then she'd win a small portion of blacks and women who normally are loyal to the Democrats, so that's like 45-50%, and essentially the win right there.
Baseless assumption number one:
The base will turnout 100% for a pro-choice, pro-affirmative action single black woman. Frankly, it's embarrassing that anyone is foolish enough to make such a laughably absurd assumption.

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Her home state being California and being a black woman might allow her to be the first Republican to carry California since Bush in 1988. Carrying California would guarantee a GOP victory.
And her odds of carrying it would be about as good as Romney carrying Massachusetts (you know, a state where Romney -- unlike Rice in California -- actually once won an election).

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She may not have been a good Secretary of State and may not be a strong candidate, but that doesn't matter in a general election. All that matters is that the bottom 20% of people on the intelligence scale prefer voting for the black woman over the white man, if that's the case. If the GOP nominates Condi and the Democrats nominate a white man, it's a guarantee that Condi wins.
Roger that, Dick Morris...
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Old 12-12-2012, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Condi Rice was the only member of the Bush administration to emerge relatively unscathed, but she was a pretty weak Sec. of State, and has no stomach for the trials of a campaign. She came from the world of academia, and was mightly glad to go back to it.
I don't think the Republicans could lure her back into public life under any circumstances. Since her departure, Rice has never worked much for the party. She's all done.

Thinking that she would win an election for President is just another pipe dream. The only thing in her favor is she wasn't hated as much as the rest of the Bush mob, and that's several steps below Mitt as a winning candidate.
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Old 12-12-2012, 01:26 PM
 
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Look, i've got nothing against Rice, but i don't get all the Republican love for her. They don't even know what she believes in.
Wasn't that at the heart of Romney's candidacy? A blank slate for them to project their ideal candidate on (mixed metaphor, sorry) - it appears the only way to get the Republicans to follow your lead is to be very, very vague about actual positions beyond "taxes bad, guns nice, more Jesus!".
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:27 PM
 
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I don't understand this fixation with Condoleeza Rice. Why on Earth anyone thinks that the GOP is going to nominate a self-described "mildly pro-choice" candidate is beyond me. And when has either party last nominated a candidate who has never held elective office? Not since 1952 -- and here's some breaking news: Eisenhower's stature as Supreme Allied Commander in Europe is just a wee bit more impressive than Rice's association with the epic debacle otherwise known as the Bush Administration.

Finally, there's the fact that blacks do not flock to vote for other blacks just because they're black. Check out statewide races in Maryland (Senate), Ohio (Senate) and Pennsylvania (Governor) in 2006. All three races featured a black Republican against a white Democrat. What happened? All three Democrats won, winning huge supermajorities of the black vote in the process because, surprise, surprise, blacks vote on the issues and not on skin tone.
I need to use your response on another thread regarding the black vote. Thanks for sharing.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:30 PM
 
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Next to Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld, Condi is the person most closely associated with the FAILED Bush administration.

She'd have zero chance of winning the presidency.
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Old 12-12-2012, 11:15 PM
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A gay, female, black Republican president? No way....
Where is this coming from,that she is gay?
Seriously?

In any event,she would actually be the first black american president who descended from slaves.


Can you imagine Condi running up against Hillary?
That will be SOME race.

So,she hasn't been elected to a position.
Yet,Obama was a community leader,then a senator.
Ok,so he was a senator from Illinois. His resume Is way shorter than Condi's.
She has more experience than him.

I never got why the left hates her.
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Old 12-13-2012, 12:04 AM
 
Location: Tulsa, OK
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Where is this coming from,that she is gay?
Seriously?

In any event,she would actually be the first black american president who descended from slaves.


Can you imagine Condi running up against Hillary?
That will be SOME race.

So,she hasn't been elected to a position.
Yet,Obama was a community leader,then a senator.
Ok,so he was a senator from Illinois. His resume Is way shorter than Condi's.
She has more experience than him.

I never got why the left hates her.
She is gay.
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Old 12-13-2012, 01:18 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Where is this coming from,that she is gay?
Seriously?

In any event,she would actually be the first black american president who descended from slaves.


Can you imagine Condi running up against Hillary?
That will be SOME race.

So,she hasn't been elected to a position.
Yet,Obama was a community leader,then a senator.
Ok,so he was a senator from Illinois. His resume Is way shorter than Condi's.
She has more experience than him.

I never got why the left hates her.
If you haven't figured out why Rice would be a weak candidate by now, it's pointless to try to convince you, but it's like this:
Have you ever seen a small car that got hit by a train? In such a matchup, Hillary Clinton is the locomotive.
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Old 12-13-2012, 03:20 AM
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If you haven't figured out why Rice would be a weak candidate by now, it's pointless to try to convince you, but it's like this:
Have you ever seen a small car that got hit by a train? In such a matchup, Hillary Clinton is the locomotive.
Convince me please.
She really isn't a conservative,plus she is a more moderate republican. She would most likely be able to win independant voters over,like me.

Obama came out of nowhere and became president.
Condi is well known.
If he can become president,why can't she?
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