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I translate this roughly to 'Dems have nobody for 2016.' Hillary is unlikely to run, in my view. She's been complaining about a lack of sleep since 2007. Now she has health worries too. She'll be 69 in Nov, 2016. (and btw, Biden will be 74, 2 weeks from 75.
The best hope I see for Dems now is that Chris Christie switches parties and runs. If that happens, a lot of lefty trolls are going to have to take back a lot of fat jokes.
Huck and Santorum are both done, IMO. They are both 'big government conservatives,' both religious. That's basically what we had with W Bush. Tea Partiers, and the GOP base want someone who is a real conservative, a limited-gov't conservative.
Plus do we really want 8 more years of lectures about diet and exercise coming out of the wh?
Wutitiz, haven't you noticed by now almost every Republican preaches about limited government, small government, etc., when on the campaign trail but NEVER delivers when they actually do get elected? Hell, even people in the right side of the GOP get buyer's remorse every so often and you'll start to see signs that say "keep your hands off my Medicare and Social Security". The irony is, those 2 programs are the GOP's biggest sacred cows.
Huck and Santorum are both done, IMO. They are both 'big government conservatives,' both religious. That's basically what we had with W Bush. Tea Partiers, and the GOP base want someone who is a real conservative, a limited-gov't conservative.
Plus do we really want 8 more years of lectures about diet and exercise coming out of the wh?
I agree... Exercise and Dieting are horrible ideas. Stay fat America!
Christie isn't going to change parties. Why should he? As a independent thinking Republican, he has undeniable star power all the others lack. He commands the stage with his presence every time.
Love him or hate him, Christie has the ability to connect with people, and his determined refusal to walk the party line like a robot makes him a very solid contender in a party that wants the White House back. There is nothing phony about the guy.
But it remains to be seen if he has higher ambitions. Personally, I think he's content being Governor as he is a Jersey boy to the bone. I believe it is far more likely he will run for re-election there before he considers a run for the Presidency.
And, like Huckabee did, he has plenty of time left to shed 100 lbs. before he enters the race. Richardson did the same for his 2008 run on the Democratic side.
Santorum, Huckabee, Palin, Perry and Ryan are toasted and done. By 2016, all will be yesterday's news, lining the bottom of a bird cage.
Rubio may develop some personality between now and then, but right now, he looks like a younger Romney.
Martinez may make waves, but she's not well known at present. But a young female Governor made big waves in 2008 until she flamed out. If Martinez is actually competent, is sensible, and can speak in sentences that don't need a decoder ring to translate, maybe she has a shot.
I once thought Huntsman stood the best chance to win in 2016, but I'm pretty convinced now that he won't run. But I've been wrong before, so it is possible he's still mulling it over. If he does run, both he and his party will have to develop more fire in their bellies to get him into office.
4 years is a long time in politics; all of these people can easily bubble to the top or sink to the bottom between now and then.
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Susanna Martinez- She is the darkhorse. She is a relatively popular Gov. in a blue state. Also, shes female and hispanic, which will benefit her. She is also known as being a very tough, no nonsense leader. I think shes more formidable than Rubio.
She won't run since she is unwilling to leave New Mexico for an extended period of time due to personal reasons.
Your assessment is spot on. If I had to guess right now, I would guess that Marco Rubio will be the 2016 nominee. I have no idea who will be the D nominee. I don't think Hillary wants it.
Marco Rubio?????????? You mean that guy who MADE UP his life story? His family were refugees from Castro except they wern't? What's with you Americans? Is there no one who is honest, who has a bit of integrity and is just not generally a slimeball that can be put up by the GOP pick for POTUS?
It doesn't matter who the GOP picks, the left will attack them all viciously with distortions and lies. Just look and the leftist idiots who've already trashed this thread attacking people 4 full years before an election. Regardless of who actually ends up running within 24 hours they'll all be painted as the richest, out of touch, woman hating, racist, baby kickers known to man... all while they support rich, out of touch, racist morons themselves. The GOP could run a lesbian, Mexican, atheist, farm girl who grew up in a field where her father picked tomatoes to pay the rent and the lefties would still attack her for being an old, rich white, male Republican.
The people who would do the best job as President are far too smart to run for the office given the attacks they face the minute they sign the paper.
I translate this roughly to 'Dems have nobody for 2016.'
Well, we've all seen how well the right has been in predicting political trends recently.
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Hillary is unlikely to run, in my view. She's been complaining about a lack of sleep since 2007. Now she has health worries too. She'll be 69 in Nov, 2016. (and btw, Biden will be 74, 2 weeks from 75.
I agree that both Hillary and Biden are unlikely candidates. But this thread is about the next GOP primary.
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The best hope I see for Dems now is that Chris Christie switches parties and runs. If that happens, a lot of lefty trolls are going to have to take back a lot of fat jokes.
The fact that Christie would be a good candidate automatically disqualifies him from serious GOP consideration. A solid GOP "contender" has to have teabagger credentials. The Pubs have shown a very strong tendency to devour their own recently. Which means they'll lose the general. Again.
Christie isn't going to change parties. Why should he? As a independent thinking Republican, he has undeniable star power all the others lack. He commands the stage with his presence every time.
Love him or hate him, Christie has the ability to connect with people, and his determined refusal to walk the party line like a robot makes him a very solid contender in a party that wants the White House back. There is nothing phony about the guy.
But it remains to be seen if he has higher ambitions. Personally, I think he's content being Governor as he is a Jersey boy to the bone. I believe it is far more likely he will run for re-election there before he considers a run for the Presidency.
And, like Huckabee did, he has plenty of time left to shed 100 lbs. before he enters the race. Richardson did the same for his 2008 run on the Democratic side.
Santorum, Huckabee, Palin, Perry and Ryan are toasted and done. By 2016, all will be yesterday's news, lining the bottom of a bird cage.
Rubio may develop some personality between now and then, but right now, he looks like a younger Romney.
Martinez may make waves, but she's not well known at present. But a young female Governor made big waves in 2008 until she flamed out. If Martinez is actually competent, is sensible, and can speak in sentences that don't need a decoder ring to translate, maybe she has a shot.
I once thought Huntsman stood the best chance to win in 2016, but I'm pretty convinced now that he won't run. But I've been wrong before, so it is possible he's still mulling it over. If he does run, both he and his party will have to develop more fire in their bellies to get him into office.
4 years is a long time in politics; all of these people can easily bubble to the top or sink to the bottom between now and then.
I agree that Christie is trying to make a name for himself as someone who can be pragmatic and bi-partisan. Hes not ultraconservative, but still more to the right than the left. I think he may be to the GOP what Bill Clinton was for Dems (he moved his party to the center), and unlike most moderate Republicans, he has shown that he can push back hard at the far right, just as he has against the left.
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