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Old 04-21-2013, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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I just read this:

Jon Huntsman Holds His Ground as Republicans Come Around to His Views - The Daily Beast

Jon Huntsman has been busy lately speaking to GOP groups and to some of the high investment GOP supporters, who are presently waiting for party developments before they begin committing money for 2016.
It seems the party is coming around to the positions Huntsman has been covering for the past 2 years.

As the article mentioned, a Huntsman being elected governor of Utah was about as hard as a Kennedy being elected in Massachusetts, and he was a green novice who got off to a late and unorganized start in late 2011.
But Huntsman is intelligent, disciplined, well connected, and ambitious. Of all the candidates of 2012, he is the only one who wouldn't have to change his former positions of 2012 in 2016, and he has plenty of time to learn what he needs and develop a strong organization.

He is way to smart to announce anything until he feels he's fully prepared next time, and he admits that he could not emerge from the 2016 primaries as the winner. He is confident, though, that whoever wins will share the majority of his positions. It will all depend on how much the GOP is willing to accept and work out the changes that are needed in the party between now and then.

I have believed his fire was out, but I was wrong. I've thought all along Huntsman has appeal to all the moderates and independents that Romney and all the others did not have in 2012. I guess we will have to see what develops. For me, Huntsman is the only Republican I would be happy with at the present, but 2016 is still a political lifetime away.
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Old 04-21-2013, 05:14 PM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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Huntsman's a "moderate" Republican. The extremists, the American Taliban and other oddballs who control the Republican primary process ... once rejected Huntsman and will continue to reject him. There's not time enough for the party to put different, other than the extremist, make-up on in an attempt to fool America as to who we know them to be. A good, honest man he seems to be. It's a shame that there's no room for him and his voice in the electoral process.
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Old 04-21-2013, 05:28 PM
 
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In other news GOP primary voters may be considering voting for Huntsman somewhere behind Santorum and Rafalca.
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:05 PM
 
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I am surprised that liberals would support a wall street globalist chemical manufacturer, pushing a bigger china agenda.

http://huntsman.com/corporate/a/Home

but life is full of surprises.

maybe they think he is good-looking.
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:09 PM
 
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I'm not voting for a Mormon, among other serious issues I have with him. Sorry Huntsman
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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I am surprised that liberals would support a wall street globalist chemical manufacturer, pushing a bigger china agenda.

Huntsman Corporation

but life is full of surprises.

maybe they think he is good-looking.
As far as that goes, i doubt many liberals will support a Republican at all. But moderates and uncommitteds may, if it's the right globalist and the right Mormon. Romney is both, and he did a lot better than most folks would have thought at this time 4 years ago.

Four years ago, I would have never believed the GOP would endorse and support a black female Mormon so strongly, but they did. Mia Love is still shining, 6 months later.

It still remains to be seen if the base will accept that the political sands are shifting and will move with them. Huntsman acknowledged that he might not be the candidate, but he thinks the candidate will share his positions in 2016, whoever it is.
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Old 04-21-2013, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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I'm not voting for a Mormon...
And you call yourself "the unbrainwashed"?
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Old 04-21-2013, 09:29 PM
 
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Huntsman's a "moderate" Republican. The extremists, the American Taliban and other oddballs who control the Republican primary process ... once rejected Huntsman and will continue to reject him. There's not time enough for the party to put different, other than the extremist, make-up on in an attempt to fool America as to who we know them to be. A good, honest man he seems to be. It's a shame that there's no room for him and his voice in the electoral process.
I get what you're saying, but Huntsman just doesn't appeal to me. I've talked it over with fellow GOP'ers with similar feelings and I can't put my finger on it. I don't care about the religion, Mormons are great people, and if it was a choice between him or Hillary, I'd vote for him in a heartbeat. I just don't see him winning the primaries.
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I'm not voting for a Mormon, among other serious issues I have with him. Sorry Huntsman
I am not a Huntsman supporter and probably never will be, but why would anyone not vote for someone because of the religious views? Do you feel the same about voting for a Jew, an atheist or an agnostic for starters? I do not think he will get any further next time around, than last time, but his religion should not make a difference.
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Old 04-23-2013, 10:31 PM
 
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I wouldn't vote for a Scientologist, Unarian, Moonie, Raelian, or Urantian either. Followers of Eckankar I'd have to see what their position on AMT is first.
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