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Old 05-27-2013, 05:26 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Not surprising given that the GOP leadership and their wealthy supporters discourage higher education.
We do, we discourage higher education? Golly, how did you come up with that one may I ask? Most of the people I know, educated I will add are split pretty evenly between the two parties and some are Libertarians. Most also encourage their kids, grandkids, whomever to continue their education if they are interested in a field that requires it and they have the intelligence and personality to achieve. Smart people also realize, not everyone is cut out for college.
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Old 05-27-2013, 06:26 AM
 
Location: 77441
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do democrats enjoy selling their soul to the devil so they can win an election ?
obviously they do, since they do it time after time after time.

sorry, I'll keep my morals and ethics, you keep your obamas and clintons...
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Old 05-27-2013, 06:41 AM
 
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do democrats enjoy selling their soul to the devil so they can win an election ?
obviously they do, since they do it time after time after time.

sorry, I'll keep my morals and ethics, you keep your obamas and clintons...
I think you need to elaborate on this further if you're going to make a real point. Look at how many viewpoints Romney flip flopped on when it was convenient if you want a demonstration of "selling your soul" for politics.
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Old 05-27-2013, 09:55 AM
 
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I am glad romney didn't win. it's been an absolute pleasure to watch the epic failure of the obama administration. bush was a hard act to follow, but obama managed to do it.
You are right - severely cutting the defeceit, turning the economy around, gaining jobs, saving the american auto industry ... on and on and on he has been a very good president. And he has done most of it with a vastly obstructionist Repugnantcan congress.

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he is making bush's approval ratings rise because he's so terrible.
How deep in the sand IS your head? You guys drum up a rash of BS controversies, and Obama's approval ratings RISE to 53%, meanwhile Republican approval ratings are at all time lows in the mid-30's.

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next in line for the nomination of the democrat party is a 400 year old brain damaged blind woman. self loathing democrats will rush to vote for her, as a lame attempt to be part of some sort of faux history.
We could run that 400 year old brain damaged blind woman and she would still win, making it 6 out of 7 popular elections you lost because the American public has rejected your BS.

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It's hard to get a clue when their worst enemy is them.
The Republican party broke both it's legs off when it started the RINO hunt, and it's been limping along on the bloody stumps ever since.
Pretty much. Contrary to the narrative portrayed by conservative talk radio, the Democrats are the party of moderates at this point. Obama and Hillary are both centrist (sadly to those of us progressive/socialists ...).
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Old 05-27-2013, 10:54 AM
 
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I think if you look at presidential resent history that the GOP has done pretty well in appealing to the voters .Why people want both parties to stand for the same thing is quite beyond me. Parties by definition should represent their supporters; IMO. Not try to buy votes by abandoning those who support them.I think its the democrats who in numbers now say Obama talk was just talk.
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Old 05-27-2013, 11:25 AM
 
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I think if you look at presidential resent history that the GOP has done pretty well in appealing to the voters
You count losing 5 out of 6 popular elections as "doing pretty well"? Interesting outlook.

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.Why people want both parties to stand for the same thing is quite beyond me. Parties by definition should represent their supporters; IMO. Not try to buy votes by abandoning those who support them.I think its the democrats who in numbers now say Obama talk was just talk.
I don't think we "want" them to change positions to ours. Actually we find their self destruction rather amusing. It is a simple matter of the fact that the American population no longer is willing to accept positions of blatant discrimination and exclusion, of relegating women to second class citizens, of failing to care for the needs of the American people while sucking on the corporate teat ... the Republicans are slowly dieing and it is quite fun to watch.
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Old 05-27-2013, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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You count losing 5 out of 6 popular elections as "doing pretty well"? Interesting outlook.



I don't think we "want" them to change positions to ours. Actually we find their self destruction rather amusing. It is a simple matter of the fact that the American population no longer is willing to accept positions of blatant discrimination and exclusion, of relegating women to second class citizens, of failing to care for the needs of the American people while sucking on the corporate teat ... the Republicans are slowly dieing and it is quite fun to watch.
5 out of 6, what the heck are you talking about? How about the number of GOP Pres since 1980 compared to Democrats? and what about the number of governors? the Democrats love to ignore that or come up with some **** and bull story about regional.
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Old 05-27-2013, 03:46 PM
 
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I would ask, instead, if the progressives/liberals, enjoy winning by cheating and any and all means?
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Old 05-27-2013, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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5 out of 6, what the heck are you talking about? How about the number of GOP Pres since 1980 compared to Democrats? and what about the number of governors? the Democrats love to ignore that or come up with some **** and bull story about regional.
He was talking about the popular vote. The Dems have won 5 of the last 6 popular votes. Granted winning the popular vote doesn't translate to winning an election as 2000 showed, but the point still remains.

As far as the Governor ships go, its a different dynamic. You can have a decent state party in a state, but that doesn't translate into being strong on the national level in the state. PA is a good example for the GOP. They have generally been strong on the state level (although Corbett is very unpopular and has little chance of reelection), but haven't been able to replicate their state success on the national level.

There is certainly a regional issue with the GOP, look at where they have won and look at where they haven't. The difference between the Dems and GOP in this aspect is the Dems have made strides in the areas within the GOP region, the GOP hasn't done the same.
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Old 05-27-2013, 10:12 PM
 
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5 out of 6, what the heck are you talking about? How about the number of GOP Pres since 1980 compared to Democrats? and what about the number of governors? the Democrats love to ignore that or come up with some **** and bull story about regional.
Governers tend to be a lagging indicator politically of where a populace stands. Once again, the Democrats have won the popular vote in 5 out of the last 6 presidential elections. And before they started running their faked up Bengazzi propoganda machines, even the vast majority of major right wing sources gave little chance at all of a Republican beating Hillary in 2016.

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I would ask, instead, if the progressives/liberals, enjoy winning by cheating and any and all means?
And how have we cheated?

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There is certainly a regional issue with the GOP, look at where they have won and look at where they haven't. The difference between the Dems and GOP in this aspect is the Dems have made strides in the areas within the GOP region, the GOP hasn't done the same.
There is one of the key points. Republicans are making virtually no inroads in the solid Democratic territory. Dems are turning swing states into solid blue states (New Mexico and Nevada as examples), and are even making inroads in stronger Republican territory (in Texas for example where despite comfortable republican victory overall in the last election, every major city was blue with the exception of Fort Worth, and the border areas were also blue. In another generation or so, with continued hispanic population growth there is every indicator that Texas is headed towards possibly being a swing state)
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