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Old 07-29-2013, 05:11 AM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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As we democrats found in the 2000 and 2004 elections, which some of us felt were stolen and gerrymandered, we can imagine how you feel about Obama being elected to two terms, however, we feel the past two elections were won fair and square. In the 2000 and 2004 elections, many of us democrats were very angry about the outcomes. We feel your pain, we know what it's like to lose elections.

The Stolen Presidential Elections
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In one of the closest contests in U.S. history, the 2000 presidential election between Democratic Vice-President Al Gore and Republican governor of Texas George W. Bush (hereafter referred to as Bush Jr. to distinguish him from his father who was also a president), the final outcome hinged on how the vote went in Florida.


Independent investigations in that state revealed serious irregularities directed mostly against ethnic minorities and low-income residents who usually voted heavily Democratic. Some 36,000 newly registered voters were turned away because their names had never been added to the voter rolls by Florida’s secretary of state Kathleen Harris.
How The 2004 Presidential Election May Have Been Hacked
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Ohio's 2004 presidential election is one many won't forget. Democrat John Kerry was the leader and exit polls pegged him as the winner. Defying explanation, a last-minute shift in votes favored Republican George W. Bush and propelled him to victory.

New filings in the King Lincoln Bronzeville v. Blackwell case sheds some light on how the 2004 election may have been hacked. The story starts with SmartTech, a Tennessee based hosting company with strong Republican ties.

SmarTech was hired by Ohio to provide a failsafe voting server for the rare occasion a network problem occurred. This isn't unusual. All properly managed networked systems have a backup in case of failure.

But in Ohio, there was no significant failure and voting data was unexpectedly switched over to SmarTech late in the voting process. This sudden shift coincides with an increase in votes favorable to Bush. Hmm, is there a mackerel in the room because something smells fishy.


When republicans can come up with a viable candidate, maybe you can show up at the polls in 2016, and not hang your heads in shame of what your party came up with in the past as candidates. We know how disappointing Romney and McCain must have been for you.

There are middle road republicans and conservatives in the real world, you just need to drop the hard right positions that hurt your party. You can be fiscally conservative, but at the same time, you can be socially liberal too. Your party also needs to stop placing blame on the poor and middle class for America's problems, and find an alternate way of fixing what's wrong.
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Old 07-29-2013, 05:16 AM
 
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As we democrats found in the 2000 and 2004 elections, which some of us felt were stolen and gerrymandered, we can imagine how you feel about Obama being elected to two terms, however, we feel the past two elections were won fair and square. In the 2000 and 2004 elections, many of us democrats were very angry about the outcomes. We feel your pain, we know what it's like to lose elections.

The Stolen Presidential Elections


How The 2004 Presidential Election May Have Been Hacked




When republicans can come up with a viable candidate, maybe you can show up at the polls in 2016, and not hang your heads in shame of what your party came up with in the past as candidates. We know how disappointing Romney and McCain must have been for you.

There are middle road republicans and conservatives in the real world, you just need to drop the hard right positions that hurt your party. You can be fiscally conservative, but at the same time, you can be socially liberal too. Your party also needs to stop placing blame on the poor and middle class for America's problems, and find an alternate way of fixing what's wrong.
What is it with you liberals and thinking the only way for a party to become viable is to be socially liberal? Please stop with the low information voting, its hurting the gray matter inside my skull. GOP needs to drop its negatives attitudes on the poor.
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Old 07-29-2013, 05:18 AM
 
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As we democrats found in the 2000 and 2004 elections, which some of us felt were stolen and gerrymandered, we can imagine how you feel about Obama being elected to two terms, however, we feel the past two elections were won fair and square. In the 2000 and 2004 elections, many of us democrats were very angry about the outcomes. We feel your pain, we know what it's like to lose elections.

The Stolen Presidential Elections


How The 2004 Presidential Election May Have Been Hacked




When republicans can come up with a viable candidate, maybe you can show up at the polls in 2016, and not hang your heads in shame of what your party came up with in the past as candidates. We know how disappointing Romney and McCain must have been for you.

There are middle road republicans and conservatives in the real world, you just need to drop the hard right positions that hurt your party. You can be fiscally conservative, but at the same time, you can be socially liberal too. Your party also needs to stop placing blame on the poor and middle class for America's problems, and find an alternate way of fixing what's wrong.
Looks like standard leftist talking points with nothing to back them up....
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Old 07-29-2013, 05:21 AM
 
Location: Missouri
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When republicans can come up with a viable candidate, maybe you can show up at the polls in 2016, and not hang your heads in shame of what your party came up with in the past as candidates. We know how disappointing Romney and McCain must have been for you.
Kerry and Gore weren't exactly sparkling drinks of fresh water. That George W. Bush, one of the dullest of knives, beat these two jokers attests to that.

Yes, beat them. No use dredging up half truths and innuendos from elections that happened a million years ago.

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Old 07-29-2013, 05:23 AM
 
Location: Katy
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What I have never understood is why the Republican party fights so hard against abortion. Most abortions are done by democrats so it is one less potential voter in the future against them. If the republicans manage to get abortion to be restricted even more, in 18-25 years there will be WAY more democrats.
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Old 07-29-2013, 05:31 AM
 
Location: Katy
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As we democrats found in the 2000 and 2004 elections, which some of us felt were stolen and gerrymandered, we can imagine how you feel about Obama being elected to two terms, however, we feel the past two elections were won fair and square. In the 2000 and 2004 elections, many of us democrats were very angry about the outcomes. We feel your pain, we know what it's like to lose elections.
Ummm, not exactly true, when you get more votes in a district than that district has citizens. There has been many a people and news reports of people voting MULTIPLE times for Obama which isnt exactly "FAIR and SQUARE".

Now dont take that as me being against the rest of your argument, I am a realist and I imagine every election in the last 10-20 years has had some kind of tinkering to help it swing one way or another.
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Old 07-29-2013, 05:55 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Originally Posted by NoJiveMan View Post
As we democrats found in the 2000 and 2004 elections, which some of us felt were stolen and gerrymandered, we can imagine how you feel about Obama being elected to two terms, however, we feel the past two elections were won fair and square. In the 2000 and 2004 elections, many of us democrats were very angry about the outcomes. We feel your pain, we know what it's like to lose elections.

The Stolen Presidential Elections


How The 2004 Presidential Election May Have Been Hacked




When republicans can come up with a viable candidate, maybe you can show up at the polls in 2016, and not hang your heads in shame of what your party came up with in the past as candidates. We know how disappointing Romney and McCain must have been for you.

There are middle road republicans and conservatives in the real world, you just need to drop the hard right positions that hurt your party. You can be fiscally conservative, but at the same time, you can be socially liberal too. Your party also needs to stop placing blame on the poor and middle class for America's problems, and find an alternate way of fixing what's wrong.


As you say, there are different types of Republicans just as there are different types of Democrats.
The problem is you sound Bi-Partisan up until your last sentence and then you go and stereotype all Conservatives as blaming the poor and middle class for America's problems.

First off, I have never seen an example of a Conservative blaming the middle class for anything....
Secondly, Conservatives as a whole don't blame the poor for America's problems, just the way that the Left coddles the poor with never ending social programs that keep them poor and dependent on the government so they keep voting Democrat.

That being said, you are right about one thing, Conservatives need to field better candidates.
I myself am fiscally conservative/socially moderate but would never vote for a Rino either.

Also be careful of making the common mistake of confusing Republicans with Conservatives....they are NOT the same thing.
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Old 07-29-2013, 06:14 AM
 
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When republicans can come up with a viable candidate, maybe you can show up at the polls in 2016, and not hang your heads in shame of what your party came up with in the past as candidates. We know how disappointing Romney and McCain must have been for you.

There are middle road republicans and conservatives in the real world, you just need to drop the hard right positions that hurt your party. You can be fiscally conservative, but at the same time, you can be socially liberal too. Your party also needs to stop placing blame on the poor and middle class for America's problems, and find an alternate way of fixing what's wrong.
A quick run through the liberal de-spin-o-meter can translate the above quote into the following bullet points:

1. If a Republican is elected to the White House, it is surely down to election fraud of some sort.

2. Only liberal candidates are considered viable.


3. I have nothing for the last sentence. I have never seen a Republican blame the poor or middle class for any of America's problems. I have seen them blame the irresponsible spending of the Democrats, but never place any blame on the poor or middle class. This is just baseless liberal tripe.
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Old 07-29-2013, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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Every dog has his day.........
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Old 07-29-2013, 06:36 AM
 
Location: On the Group W bench
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What I have never understood is why the Republican party fights so hard against abortion. Most abortions are done by democrats so it is one less potential voter in the future against them. If the republicans manage to get abortion to be restricted even more, in 18-25 years there will be WAY more democrats.
Citation to prove this laughable assertion?
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