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Old 07-12-2015, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Texas
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You remind me of what my Philosophy 101 professor said during class in college. He was very into politics and one day he told us that all of our elected officials should have History degrees, not Political Science or business or whatever. I never forgot it and later on in my studies, I totally agree with it.
Those that ignore history are doomed to repeat it.
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Old 07-12-2015, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Lack of transparency is the mark of a coward.

Speaking of honesty, I'm sure you really gave it to Obama when he did that. Oh wait you didn't. Next
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Old 07-12-2015, 10:03 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Caused massive layoffs, loss of jobs, and a severe shortage of teachers in WI such that they actually considered hiring someone with a college degree teach high school! State also has a 2.2 billion dollar deficit. So what part of that mess is a crowning achievement? Again, Walker is a one trick pony, except his pony wears a smoke screen.

I am beginning to think that the uneducated, low paid really want to bring everyone else down with them and this is what that is about.
He DID cause all of those things, and good for him. Teachers who were only interested in the benefits of teaching left the profession. Good riddance.

But I don't think he'll be the Republican nominee. It'll be someone else, and unless Trump splits the conservative vote the Republican nominee will become the next President. That movement began in 2014 and will continue. After all, Bill Clinton never got 50% of the popular vote, and Hillary will not do as well as Bill.

Your description of Walker as one of the "uneducated, low paid" is pretty funny.
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Old 07-12-2015, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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He DID cause all of those things, and good for him. Teachers who were only interested in the benefits of teaching left the profession. Good riddance.

But I don't think he'll be the Republican nominee. It'll be someone else, and unless Trump splits the conservative vote the Republican nominee will become the next President. That movement began in 2014 and will continue. After all, Bill Clinton never got 50% of the popular vote, and Hillary will not do as well as Bill.

Your description of Walker as one of the "uneducated, low paid" is pretty funny.
Actually, Walker is taking advantage of the uneducated's desire to pull all wages down with them so that Walker can do the bidding of billionaires who fund him.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7v8f8jBrW8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGyItprY1Dg
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Old 07-12-2015, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Caused massive layoffs, loss of jobs, and a severe shortage of teachers in WI such that they actually considered hiring someone with a college degree teach high school! State also has a 2.2 billion dollar deficit. So what part of that mess is a crowning achievement? Again, Walker is a one trick pony, except his pony wears a smoke screen.

I am beginning to think that the uneducated, low paid really want to bring everyone else down with them and this is what that is about.
And why did all this happen? Could it have anything to do with the teachers union? Of course it did; he didn't cost them jobs, they did it to themselves. I suppose you think Reagan cost the Air controllers their jobs as well? Let's face it, like it or not, union have worn out their welcome. it seems you also are nieve enough to think people who do not agree with you are uneducated and suffer from low paying jobs. I love the way you refer to utube: educated people realize utube videos are worthless and rarely true. Most are set ups or edited to represent what the author wants them to represent.
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Old 07-12-2015, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Lack of transparency is the mark of a coward.

Speaking of honesty, I'm sure you really gave it to Obama when he did that. Oh wait you didn't. Next

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCtOKUhxps4
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Old 07-12-2015, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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And why did all this happen? Could it have anything to do with the teachers union? Of course it did; he didn't cost them jobs, they did it to themselves. I suppose you think Reagan cost the Air controllers their jobs as well? Let's face it, like it or not, union have worn out their welcome. it seems you also are nieve enough to think people who do not agree with you are uneducated and suffer from low paying jobs. I love the way you refer to utube: educated people realize utube videos are worthless and rarely true. Most are set ups or edited to represent what the author wants them to represent.
Can't attract good teachers if they get low pay and lousy benefits. In fact, people won't major in education if the job is paid like a McDs worker.

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Since Gov. Scott Walker and the Republican Legislature enacted sweeping changes to collective bargaining and teacher compensation, the number of junior and senior undergraduates enrolled in state teacher-training programs appears to have dropped, state data show.
The 2.8 percent decrease between 2010 and 2012 at University of Wisconsin System campuses comes after a 6.8 percent increase between 2008 and 2010, according to System data reported to the federal Education Department provided to the State Journal by the UW System in response to a request for enrollment data for the System’s teacher-training programs. 
Number of teachers in training down statewide : Wsj

Maybe this will help for you to connect the dots on this; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causality
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Old 07-12-2015, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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And why did all this happen? Could it have anything to do with the teachers union? Of course it did; he didn't cost them jobs, they did it to themselves. I suppose you think Reagan cost the Air controllers their jobs as well? Let's face it, like it or not, union have worn out their welcome. it seems you also are nieve enough to think people who do not agree with you are uneducated and suffer from low paying jobs. I love the way you refer to utube: educated people realize utube videos are worthless and rarely true. Most are set ups or edited to represent what the author wants them to represent.
Since the YouTube videos I posted are of Walker talking, I see what you mean by being worthless and what is said being rarely true.
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Old 07-12-2015, 10:39 AM
 
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Caused massive layoffs, loss of jobs, and a severe shortage of teachers in WI such that they actually considered hiring someone with a college degree teach high school! State also has a 2.2 billion dollar deficit. So what part of that mess is a crowning achievement? Again, Walker is a one trick pony, except his pony wears a smoke screen.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGyItprY1Dg

I am beginning to think that the uneducated, low paid really want to bring everyone else down with them and this is what that is about.
And yet the unemployment rate feel
Non farm salaries have increased
mining and lodging wages have increased
Construction wages up
manufacturing wages up
Transporation wages up
Information wages up
Financial sector wages up
Professional wages up
EDUCATIONAL WAGES UP
Hospitality wages up

etc..

Seems its YOU who don tknow what you are talking about.. AGAIN

Wisconsin Economy at a Glance
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Old 07-12-2015, 10:40 AM
 
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Can't attract good teachers if they get low pay and lousy benefits.
Except their wages INCREASED..

stop embarrassing yourself by posting
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