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Old 07-09-2015, 09:48 PM
 
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I saw sanders mention the NYTs Paul Krugman as possible VP - the guy borders on mental disorder.

I think sanders will really hurt Hilary. He will gain a lot of traction, though I don't think he will get the nominee. But he is so far left, his supporters wouldn't differentiate Hillary from the republican candidate. I think republicans show up to support no matter who is on ballot - I will do so to vote against Hillary, not for any candidate in particular. But I don't see Bernie supporters shifting to Hilary if she wins the nominee.
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Old 07-10-2015, 04:35 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I wonder just what "freedoms" I have lost due to the leftists over the last 60 years. What "freedoms" have you lost?
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Old 07-10-2015, 04:41 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Bernie Sanders had made some comments about a political revolution.

Although he may be pulling in large crowds now he is still going to have a tough fight against Clinton and the rest of the establishment.

So what do you guys think of Sanders choosing former Libertarian candidate Bill Still as his VP?

Still won the Libertarian 2012 party Presidential nomination and he has worked with left leaning Ellen Brown on promoting a decentralized financial system.

Also what do you guys think about Senator Rand Paul choosing Dennis Kucinich as his VP, especially since Denny has reached across the aisle and worked with his dad when they were both in Congress.

So what say you, can a Sanders/Still and/or Paul/Kucinich ticket give the political establishment a run for their money?
Never heard of Bill Still or Ellen Brown.

Kucinich is a self avowed communist who drove the City of Cleveland into bankruptcy as Mayor. He is a Leftist loon; a real nut job. I do not understand how Rand Paul could see eye to eye with Kucinich, much less choosing him as a running mate. Get real.
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Old 07-10-2015, 12:03 PM
 
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His ideas speak to so many people but the only trouble I see is actually implementing them. If members of Congress can get voted out and be replaced with people who share Bernie's ideas, that's the best shot we got. There's only so much a President can do given the checks and balances installed.
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Old 07-13-2015, 03:27 PM
 
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I'm pretty sure former New Mexico Republican governor Gary Johnson was the 2012 Libertarian presidential nominee. I should know, I voted for him.
May have gotten the date of Bill Still's campaign fuzzy, but I think his video will shed some light on why I think Sanders should consider him as a running mate in order to take on the limousine half of the political establishment.

The Money Masters
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Old 07-13-2015, 03:29 PM
 
Location: TN/NC
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I'd rather have either Paul or Sanders as opposed to more of the same from the establishment.
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Old 07-16-2015, 02:38 PM
 
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May have gotten the date of Bill Still's campaign fuzzy, but I think his video will shed some light on why I think Sanders should consider him as a running mate in order to take on the limousine half of the political establishment.

The Money Masters
More from my recommendation for VP for Sanders if he's serious about taking on the limousine establishment.

The Secret of Oz.
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Old 07-17-2015, 02:26 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Bernie Sanders is the Democrat-inverse of Dick (the dick) Cheney.

Both, hyperbolic bastards.
Bernie Sanders is the Democrat-inverse of Ron Paul.

Both, tell it like it is people (not sneaky vote seeking puppets.)

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Old 07-17-2015, 05:03 AM
 
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Sanders is for democrats what Trump is for republicans. A distraction.
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Old 07-17-2015, 06:45 AM
 
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I agree with you in distrust of statists being allowed into your pocket, but aren't gubbermint bailouts already socialist?
Its worse. Its more like National Socialism.

National Socialism | political movement, Germany | Britannica.com

National Socialism attempted to reconcile conservative, nationalist ideology with a socially radical doctrine. In so doing, it became a profoundly revolutionary movement—albeit a largely negative one. Rejecting rationalism, liberalism, democracy, the rule of law, human rights, and all movements of international cooperation and peace, it stressed instinct, the subordination of the individual to the state, and the necessity of blind and unswerving obedience to leaders appointed from above. It also emphasized the inequality of men and races and the right of the strong to rule the weak; sought to purge or suppress competing political, religious, and social institutions; advanced an ethic of hardness and ferocity; and partly destroyed class distinctions by drawing into the movement misfits and failures from all social classes. Although socialism was traditionally an internationalist creed, the radical wing of National Socialism knew that a mass base existed for policies that were simultaneously anticapitalist and nationalist. However, after Hitler secured power, this radical strain was eliminated.
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