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Let's pretend we can roll back time to 2002. Based on President Clinton's intelligence which obviously Hillary knew to be true because she not only voted but supported imposing the United Nations sactions against Iraq including military action, let's suppose that President Bush had not made the decision to use our military. Now, its almost six years later, Saddam did have the WMD's that Hillary's hubby said he had and Saddam is using them against Americans, too. I guess you'd still want to impeach the president or am I wrong?
Nice try. George Bush had IN HINDSIGHT more information than every previous President, including the decisions and mistakes made by every previous President, yet he still took this country into the dark ages by being a blundering, babbling, bungling idiot. He showed the world how medieval the neocon decision makers can be. Incredible regressives. His is a FAILED Presidency. He will go down in history as a FAILURE. The Neocons will go down in history as WRONG. The red states will go down in history as the LAND OF THE FOOLS. RP will, as Mike Tyson said about himself after his Boxing career ends, fade into "bolivian", wherever that is. His message has been clearly rejected.
There are always two sides of the fence. There are always people who will be pro and con to something. I am a Republican who voted for Bush in one out of the two elections. I cannot see how a person can actually defend him. Bush has polarized the Republican Party. Can you believe that there are actually Republicans who are thinking about voting for Obama or Hillary? (me being one of them)
Did I hear someone say tonight on National TV that the war was planned in 1998?
And, stop giving excuses to the looney libs who voted for the way, they voted to send the troops to war PERIOD.
If they were not 100% sure on the information then the crapheads should not have voted at all or demanded more information.
Now Hillary is coming out saying things are changing in Iraq is because the lib congress congress.... GIVE ME A BREAK !
We all know very well you want Iraq to fail so you can use it to get elected, you pretend to care about death tolls when you want to take money away from the troops etc.
No Hillary, the surge worked because the leaders finally made a right choice and it is paying off.
I posted here and other boards long ago that they looney libs will jump in and take credit for anything going right and sure enough they are trying.
Libs on this board are so suckered into thinking Saddam is the total package, it is not just one thing libs, its the total package, we are there, we are stopping the spread of problems in the middle east, we need to make sure the middle east stays secure. Its everything combined but yet none of the looney libs can understand its not just Saddam, not just WMD's, not just oil, its a total package and we are doing a great job.
You all want to talk about the negatives all the time but are not ever willing to talk about the positives that have come out of this, they far outway the negatives.
Wave the flag Hillary, lets give up and come home so you can screw up everything our troops have worked for and thus stopping the spread of problems all over the world.
Guess I can say the same thing about the economy, it was doing great until these looney butted libs took over congress, it has went the h--- since they took over, gas prices flying out the roof ( Nancy Pee promised to lower them )
food and everything else going up, people losing homes, jobs etc.
Its all the democrats in congresses fault, they plain suck and need to be impeached for their disaster of leadership.
They are destroying America folks, these libs in congress are causing our country to buckle. yup, its all their fault too !!!!
A hilarious post ...I bolded the funniest parts.
Your leader FINALLY made the right choice...took him long enough!
Yup, all is calm in the Middle East !....And the rest of the world!
Ya, the economy failed all in 6 months...it was super until then ???
Yes, disastrous leaders should be impeached...especially those who can't control and lead very well letting those Democrats ruin everything ...HAHhahahaha!!!!
Your leader FINALLY made the right choice...took him long enough!
Yup, all is calm in the Middle East !....And the rest of the world!
Ya, the economy failed all in 6 months...it was super until then ???
Yes, disastrous leaders should be impeached...especially those who can't control and lead very well letting those Democrats ruin everything ...HAHhahahaha!!!!
Yup, the lib congress did it all in 6 months, ruined a good economy, killed the housing, destroyed a good job market, raised oil prices, broke all promise they made to those who voted for them, tried to take away money from our soldiers, yup, they are a disaster and are to blame for every single thing that is wrong today. Its all their fault ya know.
See, if the loonies can blame everything on GW for what ails us and cannot give him credit for a single thing then I can certainly blame the loonies for all the things that have gone downhill since they took over.
Sure it about time we did something in Iraq, but you know what, your weak minded party wouldnt give GW credit even if it it was proven all along HE was doing the right thing.
For Hillary to take credit for the surge working is what you should be laughing at, she couldnt run her own house how the heck could she run a country?
Ohh forgot, this congress was at fault for Katrina too.....See they love to take the credit for anything good forward and backward so might as well blame them as the lib controlled mayor and governor of Louisiana caused all the problems by NOT doing their job. Meanwhile a Rep Gov in California showed us all how a disaster is suppose to be handled.
What a joke the lib part is, they are a total disgrace and an embarrassment.
By they way, if you looney libs wouldnt have been so he-- bent on finding ways to hurt our military in Iraq we would be way along by now. Your congress and media has caused more deaths in Iraq then they have saved by doing the things they have done.
Also, who makes a time frame on a war? You state its about time... Shows me what the lib party is really made of.
Iraq will be a success and GW will get the credit, even if the looney left think it is because they did something. They did something alright, they screwed over our soldiers from day one and put them in harms way.
SAD that we allow a party full of people like Dirty Harry and Nancy Peeeloser to ever get any control of anything. They are bound for a Barnum and Bailey circus show.
Yup, the lib congress did it all in 6 months, ruined a good economy, killed the housing, destroyed a good job market, raised oil prices, broke all promise they made to those who voted for them, tried to take away money from our soldiers, yup, they are a disaster and are to blame for every single thing that is wrong today. Its all their fault ya know.
See, if the loonies can blame everything on GW for what ails us and cannot give him credit for a single thing then I can certainly blame the loonies for all the things that have gone downhill since they took over.
Sure it about time we did something in Iraq, but you know what, your weak minded party wouldnt give GW credit even if it it was proven all along HE was doing the right thing.
For Hillary to take credit for the surge working is what you should be laughing at, she couldnt run her own house how the heck could she run a country?
Ohh forgot, this congress was at fault for Katrina too.....See they love to take the credit for anything good forward and backward so might as well blame them as the lib controlled mayor and governor of Louisiana caused all the problems by NOT doing their job. Meanwhile a Rep Gov in California showed us all how a disaster is suppose to be handled.
What a joke the lib part is, they are a total disgrace and an embarrassment.
By they way, if you looney libs wouldnt have been so he-- bent on finding ways to hurt our military in Iraq we would be way along by now. Your congress and media has caused more deaths in Iraq then they have saved by doing the things they have done.
Also, who makes a time frame on a war? You state its about time... Shows me what the lib party is really made of.
Iraq will be a success and GW will get the credit, even if the looney left think it is because they did something. They did something alright, they screwed over our soldiers from day one and put them in harms way.
SAD that we allow a party full of people like Dirty Harry and Nancy Peeeloser to ever get any control of anything. They are bound for a Barnum and Bailey circus show.
GW---- Great job !!
What the heck, I'll play.
I really enjoy when party line backers respond to this forum. It goes to show how pathetic politics have become when we back a party or candidate as we would our hometown football team . I hear "your congress", "your party". Unless the OP was a Congressional democrat member, it's just hilarious to hear someone say to someone that it's "their party".
Sad part is, this person doesn't realize how blatantly socialist his ideas are. The Soviet Union enjoyed trying to expand their idealogy for the rest of the world. They thought it was their duty to prove to the world they're form of government was the universal utopia and that everyone should try it. He also thinks that its the government's responsibility to micromanage the economic welfare of the country. LOL.
I'm guessing since this person is from FL, the housing market is probably really really bad there. Gonna get a LOT worse and you can thank Helicopter Ben and Greenspan for your woes. Bushie likes a communist central bank and suppressing interest rates. Did you know that the boss does business with a price fixer? Democrats had little to do with this problem, sorry. We should've taken the post 9/11 recession like a man, but Bush thought it best to convince Benny boy to give away cheap money and borrow from the Chinese to pay for our extravagant spending, including that Leninist Medicare bill he kept touting. Oil prices are nearly the same cost if you priced in gold, but of course Benny boy is printing counterfeit dollars just for you.
There's going to be no way to convince you that house prices are way overpriced and have to fall 30-50% in many areas of the country, from what they are now, not from their peak. When you have a bank dropping money from the sky in the form of no-doc loans through mortgage companies, what else do you expect? Let's not forget about Bush endorsing socialist welfare cheques to every breathing taxpayer under a certain income level. Yes, surrrrrre he's conservative. I guess being a one issue conservative (pro-life) is all you need. That plus a sweet Texan accent. Karl Rove is a genius to convince folks like yourself that a Harvard educated globalist elitist can be marketed as conservative.
This sounds like a Dr. Savage show. Michael is a brilliant and very articulate storyteller and I agree with his stance on illegal immigration 110%, but he has a twisted view of why America is economically in peril. He should stick to studying herbs.
Oh, and I'm far far far more conservative than most people in this forum, but I'm guessing you won't buy that
Let's pretend we can roll back time to 2002. Based on President Clinton's intelligence which obviously Hillary knew to be true because she not only voted but supported imposing the United Nations sactions against Iraq including military action, let's suppose that President Bush had not made the decision to use our military. Now, its almost six years later, Saddam did have the WMD's that Hillary's hubby said he had and Saddam is using them against Americans, too. I guess you'd still want to impeach the president or am I wrong?
Brief update...
In 2002, Bush was president. The intelligence agencies were all under his management, and by the time of the senate vote, they had been for 21 months. And his "management" largely consisted of cherry picking.
So, you'll have to do better than your "blame Clinton" tactic.
Not every Republican agreed with Yugoslavia. I was only in HS at the time but there was a lot of turmoil about that...our country was not created to intervene in the affairs of foreign nations; be it Darfur, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Pakistan, England, or whomever.
Also, I'm sick and tired of all these "conservative" pundits who consistently side with GW. For years the economy has been slumping...but they just tout the party line. THINK FOR YOURSELVES!
The Republicans in congress are to blame more than GW (with the exception of Ron Paul and probably a small handful of others). It is the duty of Congress to keep checks and balances and they abdicated their responsibility just to stick with the party.
Hey now, I'm a "right-winger" but my paranoia isn't directed at the middle east...it's directed at the US government, the less of it we have the better off we all are
OK, well we could use more right-wingers like you and Rep. Paul!
Offer an olive branch to a murderous dictator? You can't reason with a madman!
We get along with plenty of murderous dictators, and we always have. You can't possibly not know this.
It may be true that you can't reason with a madman, but I see no reason to suppose that Hussein was a madman. He was a sadistic thug who wasn't very bright, but that's not the same thing.
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Saddam had almost 12 years to cooperate with the U.N. and the inspectors. He kept playing cat-and-mouse with them. He violated the cease-fire agreement many times, resolution 1441 and 16 other resolutions.
Israel has been disobeying UN Resolutions since 1949, are we going to invade them too?
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He could have prevented the invasion and he chose not to.
Bull. It's documented that Bush and his neocon war gang were set on war with Iraq by Christmas 2001, and that Rumsfeld was looking for a reason to blame Iraq for 9/11 the day after it happened. They wanted their war, and they got it. It wouldn't have mattered if Saddam had turned into the second Mahatma Gandhi.
On 60 minutes an FBI agent who supposedly interviewed Saddam after his capture will be on. He says that Saddam told him he intentionally lied and mislead about the WMD to keep Iran from invading his country. He didn't think we'd actually invade his country, just bomb a few places. Could be true, could be false...who knows.
Can you imagine if it was true?! That would be awfully ironic.
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