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Old 10-21-2015, 05:11 PM
 
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I don't care which one wins, whether it's Hillary or The Donald. Both would be great in my book.
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Old 10-21-2015, 05:38 PM
 
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So like a "business" does that mean we should be able to "fire" Americans to balance the budget? Should we sell off non profiting states to other countries? Maybe we could liquidate the country and simple part it off to other countries to cover our debts? You know, things that businesses do.
It's way more than that, and in business there are plenty more potential solutions than a fire sale. I would think a long-term approach to begin chipping away at $18 trillion in debt would be much better served from a business person's perspective than that of a politician.

Again, at this point I really don't think there's a lot more to lose. Take Washington out of the firm grip of insiders and shake it up with an outsider. Then, let the chips fall where they may. Chips are littered all over America's floor already.
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Old 10-21-2015, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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It's way more than that, and in business there are plenty more potential solutions than a fire sale. I would think a long-term approach to begin chipping away at $18 trillion in debt would be much better served from a business person's perspective than that of a politician.

Again, at this point I really don't think there's a lot more to lose. Take Washington out of the firm grip of insiders and shake it up with an outsider. Then, let the chips fall where they may. Chips are littered all over America's floor already.
And how does a businessman like Trump propose to reduce the debt because his tax plan he put out won't be doing that. From a business point of view to cut a debt, you have to increase costs and reduce spending. Problem is, this isn't a business and you don't have a customer, you have American citizens. So you can't just lay off citizens, you can't reduce programs without many of them having an extremely negative effect on society.

Trump should have stuck to building buildings with his name on it, that is the one thing he is good at doing. Everything else, he is a bad businessman.
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Old 10-21-2015, 06:10 PM
 
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It's a bit early to declare a winner. The long knives have yet to come out. Republicans have played nice with Trump because of the fear he bolts to a third party run. The dems won't go after him as he is a dream opponent (in spite of what "the polls say"). The big money pubs at some point will smear Trump with millions in negative ads and it will be over. Hillary is preferable to them to a loose cannon like Trump. Mark my words.
But, as you know, both the Democrats, the media and the Darth Vaders in the Republican Party think we Trump supporters are all a bunch of dumb bunnies so we might not understand those negative ads especially if they, you know, use big words and don't run them during The Real Housewives of Capitol Hill.
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Old 10-21-2015, 06:11 PM
 
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It's way more than that, and in business there are plenty more potential solutions than a fire sale. I would think a long-term approach to begin chipping away at $18 trillion in debt would be much better served from a business person's perspective than that of a politician.

Again, at this point I really don't think there's a lot more to lose. Take Washington out of the firm grip of insiders and shake it up with an outsider. Then, let the chips fall where they may. Chips are littered all over America's floor already.
How is a billionaire businessman an outsider? They basically own the political system. Trump himself has admitted he has been bribing politicians for decades to get the legislation he wants. The only outsiders at this point would be Bernie Sanders and possibly Ben Carson.
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Old 10-21-2015, 06:20 PM
 
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I have 3,147 shares on Predict It that Trump will win the nomination.
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Old 10-21-2015, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I have 3,147 shares on Predict It that Trump will win the nomination.
He might win the nomination, but he isn't going to win the general election.
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Old 10-21-2015, 07:26 PM
 
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And how does a businessman like Trump propose to reduce the debt because his tax plan he put out won't be doing that. From a business point of view to cut a debt, you have to increase costs and reduce spending. Problem is, this isn't a business and you don't have a customer, you have American citizens. So you can't just lay off citizens, you can't reduce programs without many of them having an extremely negative effect on society.

Trump should have stuck to building buildings with his name on it, that is the one thing he is good at doing. Everything else, he is a bad businessman.
As I said I don't have the answers. But, please tell me how politicians to date have addressed such issues as we continually fall further into debt. The global economy of which we are so deeply tied into IMO needs a fresh set of eyes upon it. Any plan Trump may be speaking of today, whether it hurts his standing or not, is just the beginning. Until he is elected and has to deal with ratification's within the house and senate, then we'll see. A new baseline is what I'm talking about, something a career politician won't change much.

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How is a billionaire businessman an outsider? They basically own the political system. Trump himself has admitted he has been bribing politicians for decades to get the legislation he wants. The only outsiders at this point would be Bernie Sanders and possibly Ben Carson.
I get your point. I meant an individual brought up entirely through the political system. Trump my have ties to politicians, but hasn't been working the system from the inside meaning he is a politician himself with that sort of upbringing.
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Old 10-21-2015, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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As I said I don't have the answers. But, please tell me how politicians to date have addressed such issues as we continually fall further into debt. The global economy of which we are so deeply tied into IMO needs a fresh set of eyes upon it. Any plan Trump may be speaking of today, whether it hurts his standing or not, is just the beginning. Until he is elected and has to deal with ratification's within the house and senate, then we'll see. A new baseline is what I'm talking about, something a career politician won't change much.



I get your point. I meant an individual brought up entirely through the political system. Trump my have ties to politicians, but hasn't been working the system from the inside meaning he is a politician himself with that sort of upbringing.
Because paying down the debt is a long term issue, not a short term issue. The bigger concern is making sure we have a healthy stable economy before trying to reduce the deficit and pay down the debt.
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Old 10-22-2015, 01:19 AM
 
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He might win the nomination, but he isn't going to win the general election.
It will be a landslid in his favor. The only people supporting The King are delusional card carrying Democrats and African Americans (and even that isn't a sure thing anymore). She has been abandoned by everyone else.
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