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Old 12-16-2015, 11:14 AM
 
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I don't think blacks will rush out to vote for Republicans when rank and file conservatives are using words like "black" and "plantation" in the same sentence.
Thank you for pointing this out. I get sick of terms like plantation. Everyone is bringing up "The Republican Party is the party of Lincoln". Well, what about the last 50 years. What have Republicans done since the late 1960s? To me, that is more telling than anything else.
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Old 12-16-2015, 11:16 AM
 
Location: LA, CA/ In This Time and Place
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Think before you speak and tweet Mr. Trump!!
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Old 12-16-2015, 11:21 AM
 
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2016, of course will show that a significant number of Black peoples will check out of the Democrat Plantation and will vote for Trump.
After 24/7 replays of Trump rallies where his supports give Nazi salutes and call for burning the n****r... anyone who believes that anything but a small margin of African Americans will vote for Trump has to be in some state of delusion.
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Old 12-16-2015, 11:35 AM
 
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Well, what about the last 50 years. What have Republicans done since the late 1960s? To me, that is more telling than anything else.

Hmmm ... It was the Republicans who passed the LBJ 'Great Society' crap unless you didn't know that. But the real question is, what have the dims done for blacks in the last 50 years?

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After 24/7 replays of Trump rallies where his supports give Nazi salutes and call for burning the n****r... anyone who believes that anything but a small margin of African Americans will vote for Trump has to be in some state of delusion.

Got a link for this? I've not seen that.


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Old 12-16-2015, 11:55 AM
 
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Hmmm ... It was the Republicans who passed the LBJ 'Great Society' crap unless you didn't know that. But the real question is, what have the dims done for blacks in the last 50 years?




Got a link for this? I've not seen that.


El Nox
Actually, it was North vs South. No southern Republican passed it. A few southern Democrats did. 152 Democrats passed it vs 138 Republicans.

Again, what has taken place with Republicans since 1965? And btw, the CRA was passed in 1964.
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Old 12-16-2015, 12:06 PM
 
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I don't think blacks will rush out to vote for Republicans when rank and file conservatives are using words like "black" and "plantation" in the same sentence.
Moreover, how delusional can some folks be, when Barack Obama (who got 93% and 95% of black votes in 2008 and 2012, respectively) will clearly go campaign for Hillary and advise blacks to protect his legacy? Do you think they might just listen to him a little? Add to that Bill Clinton's immense popularity with blacks. Throw in the usual black celebrities supporting Obama and Hillary . . . lights out, goodnight.

Oh, and some people just don't realize that the racial undertone and animus emanating from the Republicans against Muslims and Hispanics, would be readily picked up by blacks who had to deal with the exact same issue all their lives. That will alienate them (even more). If you don't believe that, you might be a redneck. ~Jeff Foxworthy, some great Southern philosopher with his own quiz show.

Just remember that, since 1976, no Democrat has garnered less than 88% of the black vote in any POTUS election. Not Mondale, not Dukakis. Yes, yes, this race (no pun intended) is different because Mr. Trump, [muffle], [muffle], [inaudible].

Mick
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Old 12-16-2015, 12:15 PM
 
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Thank you for pointing this out. I get sick of terms like plantation. Everyone is bringing up "The Republican Party is the party of Lincoln". Well, what about the last 50 years. What have Republicans done since the late 1960s? To me, that is more telling than anything else.
Apparently, they don't teach Nixon and the Southern Strategy in schools any more.

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Nixon's advisers recognized that they could not appeal directly to voters on issues of white supremacy or racism. White House Chief of Staff H. R. Haldeman noted that Nixon "emphasized that you have to face the fact that the whole problem is really the blacks. The key is to devise a system that recognized this while not appearing to." With the aid of Harry Dent and South Carolina Senator Strom Thurmond, who had switched to the Republican Party in 1964, Richard Nixon ran his 1968 campaign on states' rights and "law and order." Liberal Northern Democrats accused Nixon of pandering to Southern whites, especially with regard to his "states' rights" and "law and order" positions, which were widely understood by black leaders to symbolize southern resistance to civil rights. This tactic was described in 2007 by David Greenberg in Slate as "dog-whistle politics." According to an article in The American Conservative, Nixon adviser and speechwriter Pat Buchanan disputed this characterization.
......

Glen Moore argues that in 1970, Nixon and the Republican Party developed a "Southern Strategy" for the midterm elections. The strategy involved depicting Democratic candidates as permissive liberals.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southe...2.80.931972.29

The more things change, the more they remain the same.

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Mick
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Old 12-16-2015, 12:17 PM
 
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Moreover, how delusional can some folks be, when Barack Obama (who got 93% and 95% of black votes in 2008 and 2012, respectively) will clearly go campaign for Hillary and advise blacks to protect his legacy? Do you think they might just listen to him a little? Add to that Bill Clinton's immense popularity with blacks. Throw in the usual black celebrities supporting Obama and Hillary . . . lights out, goodnight.

Oh, and some people just don't realize that the racial undertone and animus emanating from the Republicans against Muslims and Hispanics, would be readily picked up by blacks who had to deal with the exact same issue all their lives. That will alienate them (even more). If you don't believe that, you might be a redneck. ~Jeff Foxworthy, some great Southern philosopher with his own quiz show.

Just remember that, since 1976, no Democrat has garnered less than 88% of the black vote in any POTUS election. Not Mondale, not Dukakis. Yes, yes, this race (no pun intended) is different because Mr. Trump, [muffle], [muffle], [inaudible].

Mick
And think about the Republicans who have garnered a sizable Black vote. Kasich anyway.

And with Trump, you echoed something important. I have picked up on the "kick Muslims out"rhetoric. I figure if he'll do it to Muslims, he would do it to Blacks next. And he could uses issues like crime. He already retweeted a fallacious statistic about Blacks and crime.
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Old 12-16-2015, 12:22 PM
 
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Apparently, they don't teach Nixon and the Southern Strategy in schools any more.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southe...2.80.931972.29

The more things change, the more they remain the same.

Best Regards,
Mick
They might teach it, but as a footnote. On strategist mentioned that he did not see a place for Blacks in the Republican party. This was in 1968-1970.

RNC chairman Ken Mehlman admitted that using the Southern Strategy was wrong. Why doesn't someone like him run for office?
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Old 12-16-2015, 12:27 PM
 
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Fact is that between many Trump supporters being outright bigots, the Republican Party's treatment of Puerto Rico (Florida and Pennsylvania - two critical swing states - have huge Puerto Rican populations), and the popularity of the Clintons in minority communities in general the Republican Party has little to no chance of winning the White House in 2016. We will also likely lose the Senate as well.

We cannot keep going around bashing Blacks, Muslims, and Hispanics as enemies, illegals, welfare moochers, whatever. They are our fellow Americans and we are going to have to accept it and move on. The GOP needs to adapt and evolve to meet the changing times. Period.
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