Kasich signs bill to defund Planned Parenthood

[dechatelet]

Originally Posted by Goodnight

You can come up with all the accounting theories you want, they do not use federal funds for abortions, period.

There is no way you can prove that, and you are wrong.

By the way they are not the only clinic that performs abortion yet Kasich is only pulling PP funding, now why could that be.

Because those other clinics are not supported by the taxpayers.

Originally Posted by Goodnight

People near or below the federal poverty level are not covered by the ACA, already been stated that the ACA does not cover everyone.

Those not covered get Medicaid.

Originally Posted by El Nox

I will use an off topic example to support what you say ... When you donate to United Way, you are permitted to state that you do not want any of your money to support a particular organization UW collects for. They will send you a letter stating that they will comply with your requirement. Here's the catch ... every organization UW collects for gets a specific cut of the proceeds. Your request to not fund a particular organization means zilch. UW will say that NONE of you money went there, but those missing funds were made up by others ... being defined as each organization gets its 'fair share' cut.

El Nox

Exactly.

Originally Posted by whocares811

Kasich is my choice for POTUS because to me he is the least offensive of all the other POTUS candidates, Democrat or Republican.

However, that being said, I think any action that limits a woman's right to make her own choices regarding reproduction is WRONG.

So women have an unlimited right to murder babies in the womb?

I don't think so.

Both morally and constitutionally, that is wrong -- regardless of what an evil Supreme Court in the past has said.

[katharsis]

Originally Posted by dechatelet

So women have an unlimited right to murder babies in the womb?

I don't think so.

Both morally and constitutionally, that is wrong -- regardless of what an evil Supreme Court in the past has said.

Personally and for the record, I do not agree with most decisions to abort after about the 23rd week or so of pregnancy, because after that time, there is a good chance that the fetus/baby can survive without any permanent major mental or physical damage. However, if there a 50% or greater chance that the baby would be born dead or have a severe disorder that would result in almost no quality of life whatsoever and/or there is a 50% or greater chance that the woman would die or be severely impaired without the abortion, then I have no problem with the decision to abort in the third trimester in those cases.

However, even though that is my opinion, I still don't believe that I or anyone else should have the right to make reproductive choices for other women.

http://preemiehelp.com/about-preemie...ational-age#22 weeks gestational age

[dechatelet]

Originally Posted by whocares811

Personally and for the record, I do not agree with most decisions to abort after about the 23rd week or so of pregnancy, because after that time, there is a good chance that the fetus/baby can survive without any permanent major mental or physical damage. However, if there a 50% or greater chance that the baby would be born dead or have a severe disorder that would result in almost no quality of life whatsoever and/or there is a 50% or greater chance that the woman would die or be severely impaired without the abortion, then I have no problem with the decision to abort in the third trimester in those cases.

However, even though that is my opinion, I still don't believe that I or anyone else should have the right to make reproductive choices for other women.

Preemie Outcomes by gestational age weeks gestational age

And I don't believe that women have the right to murder babies.

Abortion should be allowed in the first few weeks.

After that, it should only be permitted if the woman's life is threatened or for the other reasons you gave.