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So, those two states have a serious delegate inequality problem. Where are the lgbt, blames, brown-skinned peoples to protest this miscarriage of social justice? Denying proportionable representation in this fine democracy of ours. The elites dominate. Now, there is something to get your shorts in a wad, libs. Chew on that. Ugh, bad analogy.
Good idea, let's make super delegates into pledged delegates. No, that's not how this works.
However, Bernie is free to convince any of the super delegates to change sides.
Mick
I think it is a dumb idea I mean shouldn't the people's vote matter. I mean the Republicans in the Convention are obligated to vote for the winner of their state. How is it determined how many states get Superdelegates?
This voting system is a sham. I mean I don't understand we don't have a free will voting system. Our votes never matter in the elections of the President. Only time our votes matter are in local/state elections. The Electoral College votes Blue all the time here.
I think it is a dumb idea I mean shouldn't the people's vote matter. I mean the Republicans in the Convention are obligated to vote for the winner of their state. How is it determined how many states get Superdelegates?
This voting system is a sham. I mean I don't understand we don't have a free will voting system. Our votes never matter in the elections of the President. Only time our votes matter are in local/state elections. The Electoral College votes Blue all the time here.
The Republican system is not much better, if at all. In the winner take all states a candidate like Trump will get 100% of the votes while not even getting 1/3 of the votes. Not only that, they have delegates tied to districts rather than votes in some places so even proportional is not really proportional. It is all rigged to favor party insiders. I don't object. This is what parties are - private clubs sponsored by wealthy interests. If you don't like it, lobby against partisan primaries.
I think it is a dumb idea I mean shouldn't the people's vote matter. I mean the Republicans in the Convention are obligated to vote for the winner of their state. How is it determined how many states get Superdelegates?
This voting system is a sham.
Of course votes matter. Hillary has 2.4 million more votes than Bernie. can Bernie supporters please respect democracy for once and stop blaming everyone whenever he doesn't get the support or results that his supporters expected? Whenever Bernie loses, his supporters blame that there is fraud, blame the system, blame the DNC, blame the superdelegates, blame the coin tosses (when it was later proven that it was Bernie who won multiple coun tosses), etc.
While some may argue that the superdelegates supported Hillary even before the primary season started, they missed something important. Superdelegates are fully justified for endorsing Hillary even before a single vote was casted. They were representing people's will. The reason is Hillary got about 18 million votes in the 2008 primaries being virtually tied with Obamawhich is MORE than the amount anyone else got in the histories of primaries, and she still didn't get the nomination. She did not disappoint in this primary season by getting 2.4 million more votes than Sanders.
It is also wrong to argue that superdelegates should vote according to state results. many superdelegates have national presence and while state primaries results cannot be ignored, the superdelegates should consider the entire race as many of them have national presence. It is Hillary Clinton who currently has 2.4 million more votes than Bernie Sanders.
Bernie Sanders knew about the system before he joined the party last year using the DNC solely as his tool for his presidential ambitions. Now he is openly vetting and embracing superdelegates endorsements on one hand and his campaign and supporters are heavily slamming the fact the superdelegates system. There is no limit as to the hypocrisy of Sanders and his surrogates.
Debbie Wasserman Schultz must have some kind of sweet payola coming her way.
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