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Old 04-06-2016, 09:51 AM
 
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As far fetched as this seemed a few months back.. Jeb probably will get the last laugh when he marches out of the convention this summer as the Candidate. With the help of Superdelegates, Clinton will get the nod.. so this scenario is looking more and more likely. If this happens, something needs to be done to get the people to have more power over who governs us.
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Old 04-06-2016, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Why do people keep saying that Clinton will win because of super delegates? Does the millions more people who have voted for Hillary not matter?
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Old 04-06-2016, 09:55 AM
 
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I said "with the help of".. Without them, she is only a few hundred ahead of Bernie and he has won the last few states.. so all I was saying is that he will never catch up because of the super delegates.
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Old 04-06-2016, 09:57 AM
 
Location: South Jersey
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Not going to happen... not with Jeb. But perhaps with someone else.
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Old 04-06-2016, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Denver CO
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I said "with the help of".. Without them, she is only a few hundred ahead of Bernie and he has won the last few states.. so all I was saying is that he will never catch up because of the super delegates.
Bernie's argument is that he's going to convince the superdelegates to support him. So it's absurd to make it sound nefarious that Hillary gets superdelegate votes without saying that to the extent Bernie could ever win, it would also be because he had superdelegates. With almost 20% of the Democratic delegates being superdelegates, either candidate will need them to win.

Bernie is behind because superdelegates notwithstanding, he's over 200 PLEDGED delegates and about 2.4 million votes behind, period.
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Old 04-06-2016, 10:33 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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As far fetched as this seemed a few months back.. Jeb probably will get the last laugh when he marches out of the convention this summer as the Candidate. With the help of Superdelegates, Clinton will get the nod.. so this scenario is looking more and more likely. If this happens, something needs to be done to get the people to have more power over who governs us.
Clinton will get the nod because she has more votes overall and more pledged delegates - we're not into superdelegates yet though Sanders apparently has a plan to turn them around.


Bush will not be the party nominee; he can't win and they know it. I honestly don't know what their plan is.


Cruz can't win and Trump can't win. Kasich could beat Hillary but no republican wants to vote for him.
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Old 04-06-2016, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Type 0.73 Kardashev
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I said "with the help of".. Without them, she is only a few hundred ahead of Bernie and he has won the last few states.. so all I was saying is that he will never catch up because of the super delegates.
The 2008 nomination was a lot closer, and Clinton won 6 of the last 9 contests. That didn't matter. As for 2016, Sanders has racked up wins in caucuses and open primaries. But almost all the remaining contests are closed primaries. There's virtually no chance he can catch Clinton in pledged delegates.

Superdelegates are irrelevant. They'll go with whoever wins the most pledged delegates - just like they did in 2008, when a number of those who initially said they'd vote for Clinton instead went with Obama, who won the most pledged delegates.

Oh--- and the Republicans are about as likely to pick Bush at the convention as they are to pick Kanye West. If it's not Trump or Cruz or Kasich, it'll be Ryan, maybe Romney. Bush? Not a chance.
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Old 04-06-2016, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Asgard
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Not going to happen... not with Jeb. But perhaps with someone else.
Mitt wants in as well as Paul Ryan.
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Old 04-06-2016, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Mitt wants in as well as Paul Ryan.
They should just have a Romney/Ryan ticket haha.
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