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Old 05-01-2016, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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The "gone contingent" will be all the Trumplets after November when their hero gets spanked and sent back to Trump Tower with his tail 'twixt his legs. Personality cults never outlast their leaders' downfalls.

The Republicans will then "reform" their delegate selection process to prevent another would-be "messiah" from attempting another palace coup.
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Old 05-01-2016, 11:52 AM
 
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The Republicans will then "reform" their delegate selection process to prevent another would-be "messiah" from attempting another palace coup.
Sounds as if you argue for a rigged primary where party bosses pick the nominee like they have done for Hillary instead of one where the people choose.
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Old 05-01-2016, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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It will either be Trump, or he'll be stepping down and his VP choice will run in 2020. I do think if Trump can get the ball rolling on our recovery that he would considering passing the "torch" to the next in line.
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Old 05-01-2016, 12:42 PM
 
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Sounds as if you argue for a rigged primary where party bosses pick the nominee like they have done for Hillary instead of one where the people choose.
The argument is that "the people" (still less than 50% of all GOP voters) have picked a candidate that is almost likely to lead them to a heavy electoral defeat, possibly down ticket as well.

A lot Trump supporters have openly admitted they aren't voting for him to be president necessarily, rather to use him as a battering ram to smash up the Republican party and Washington.

Most of the country doesn't feel that way, why would a party not try to make it more favorable to get a candidate that might lead them into power and so make it more difficult for angry voters to "blow up" the party?
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Old 05-01-2016, 12:44 PM
 
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The argument is that "the people" (still less than 50% of all GOP voters) have picked a candidate that is almost likely to lead them to a heavy electoral defeat, possibly down ticket as well.
Then so be it.

This is still the United States, not the United Soviet States, where the elite choose the candidates.

American must be the only place on the planet where some gladly give up rights to the establishment.
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Old 05-01-2016, 12:45 PM
 
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Then so be it.

This is still the United States, not the United Soviet States, where the elite choose the candidates.
America is really the only country where people choose the party leader. In many other countries like UK, Germany, and Scandinavia...the party chooses the party leader.

In America...historically speaking, better candidates were chosen when the party chose them as opposed to the voters...lets be honest
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Old 05-01-2016, 12:47 PM
 
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In America...historically speaking, better candidates were chosen when the party chose them as opposed to the voters...lets be honest
And look where the USA is today. The results speak for themselves.

BTW, you didn't define "better".

But if you are happy for your President to be chosen in the backrooms of party elite & the donor class, then so be it. There are millions who aren't.
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Old 05-01-2016, 01:41 PM
 
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Nope. Wasn't Jeb guaranteed to be the nominee this year? How's that going. Wasn't Hillary guaranteed to be e the nominee in 2008? How did that work out?

After this election cycle all bets are off. This clown show has shown that the presidential race could turn out ANY which way.
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Old 05-01-2016, 01:50 PM
 
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And look where the USA is today. The results speak for themselves.

BTW, you didn't define "better".

But if you are happy for your President to be chosen in the backrooms of party elite & the donor class, then so be it. There are millions who aren't.
Lincoln, Roosevelt, Eisenhower, JFK were all chosen by the party elite. In 1952 for example, the Republican party chose Eisenhower over Taft because Taft was too conservative.

Morons chosen by voters:
Jimmy Carter
Reagan (IMO George H W Bush would of made a much better president)
Mondale
Dukakhis
George Bush Junior

The quality of presidential nominees has gotten worse with every single election...look at the bozos the GOP had running for 2008 and 2012....Herman Cain, Santorum, etc...

With every election, the nominees are getting dumber and dumber...our presidential debates are a joke compared to previous presidential debates. Go on Youtube and watch the JFK-Nixon debates and look at how intellectually specific the questions are and how the candidates discuss them with a deep understanding of the issues. Then look at a debate with Trump where all of his answers are essentially "Were gonna make great deals folks"

To some extent, I understand now why Democrats have superdelegates...the people in this country when left to their own devices fall for flashy commercials and phony bravado
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