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Old 05-02-2016, 08:42 AM
 
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It's starting to looks as if the Delegates that Ted Cruz along with the party bosses stole from states like Arizona, Colorado, Missouri, etc. may not stick with him in the unlikely scenario of a 2nd ballot. Cruz might not even be able to hold on to the delegates that he won by legitimate means.

They are increasingly warming up to the idea that Donald Trump will be better for the party considering Cruz's recent gaffes, increasing unpopularity, and inability to in the vote.
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Old 05-02-2016, 09:21 AM
 
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cruz is still trying to steal delegates-is that what "christians"" like him do, take someone who was pledged to someone else and try and steal them? Doesn't that sound a little bit like cheating?

I think when the delegates see cruz's lousy backroom deals and his lousy choice for a VP, they might reconsider "pledging" to him. From market ticker we have this:

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=231357

A gift from God?

Oh really? May I remind you of the record Fiorina actually has when it comes to economics -- specifically, jobs? She destroyed Bell Labs and Lucent with aggressive lending practices she was neck-deep in as a sales leader, including to Winstar Communications, a company that went bankrupt in what was (up until MCI blew up) one of the largest bankruptcies in corporate history. Of course by then she was gone and it was that ridiculously-unwise financing that literally blew up the firm, destroying its jobs and leaving the literal matchsticks that remained to be sold off to Alcatel for pennies.

Then she went to HP where she fired 30,000 people with most of those jobs going to China. HP escape destruction but its stock was cut by more than half and while she claims "revenue expanded" during her tenure she bought it rather than growing it -- and by the head-count and equity price she failed to capitalize on those transactions. In short Fiorina is the worst possible person who you want in a policy position if your goal is to create jobs rather than destroy them, (end quote)

all those jobs Cruz is promising, BS.

She also gave 500,000 to planned parenthood through her foundation.

the stupid, it burns!

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Old 05-02-2016, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Florida
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They are leaning to Trump...
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Old 05-02-2016, 10:21 AM
 
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It's starting to looks as if the Delegates that Ted Cruz along with the party bosses stole from states like Arizona, Colorado, Missouri, etc. may not stick with him in the unlikely scenario of a 2nd ballot. Cruz might not even be able to hold on to the delegates that he won by legitimate means.

They are increasingly warming up to the idea that Donald Trump will be better for the party considering Cruz's recent gaffes, increasing unpopularity, and inability to in the vote.
Lets see your source from a credible outlet...
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Old 05-02-2016, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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While it isn't against the rules to attempt to steal the delegates in case Trump doesn't get the 1237, it is still immoral and an attempt to usurp the will of the people. Cruz is disgracing Christians by holding the Bible while running the most deceitful campaign I have ever seen.

When I saw a news show on this, they said that the delegates could take the freebies that Cruz would offer as an "incentive" to change their vote to him BUT nothing bound those delegates to follow through.
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Old 05-02-2016, 11:43 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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It's starting to looks as if the Delegates that Ted Cruz along with the party bosses stole from states like Arizona, Colorado, Missouri, etc. may not stick with him in the unlikely scenario of a 2nd ballot. Cruz might not even be able to hold on to the delegates that he won by legitimate means.

They are increasingly warming up to the idea that Donald Trump will be better for the party considering Cruz's recent gaffes, increasing unpopularity, and inability to in the vote.
Cruz hasn't "stolen" ANY delegates. The fact that you think he has just shows that you, like Trump, don't know how these state's delegate selection process works.

Trump never sent anyone to AZ during the delegate selection process. He never sent anyone to CO or WY either. It's HIS fault, and nobody else's.

But, ON THE FIRST BALLOT, delegates, by law, must vote for Trump, if Trump won the majority vote. After the first vote, they can vote their conscience. That is why Trump should have sent his people during the delegate selection process, to influence the selection of a slate of delegates favorable to him. He did not do this. He didn't show up.
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Old 05-02-2016, 11:48 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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cruz is still trying to steal delegates-is that what "christians"" like him do, take someone who was pledged to someone else and try and steal them? Doesn't that sound a little bit like cheating?
No, he is NOT trying to "steal" delegates! At the time of a state's primary, there are not yet any delegates chosen. Delegates are chosen later at the State Convention. Cruz's people have just done a better job than Trump at influencing the selection of delegates favorable to HIM. Trump has not even shown up. (CO, WY, AZ).
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Old 05-02-2016, 11:49 AM
 
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Lets see your source from a credible outlet...
Boom!
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Old 05-02-2016, 11:50 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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While it isn't against the rules to attempt to steal the delegates in case Trump doesn't get the 1237, it is still immoral and an attempt to usurp the will of the people. Cruz is disgracing Christians by holding the Bible while running the most deceitful campaign I have ever seen.

When I saw a news show on this, they said that the delegates could take the freebies that Cruz would offer as an "incentive" to change their vote to him BUT nothing bound those delegates to follow through.
Baloney.
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Old 05-02-2016, 12:00 PM
 
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It's starting to looks as if the Delegates that Ted Cruz along with the party bosses stole from states like Arizona, Colorado, Missouri, etc. may not stick with him in the unlikely scenario of a 2nd ballot. Cruz might not even be able to hold on to the delegates that he won by legitimate means.
It is unlikely, and I don't see any evidence in your OP that what you say is true if it does go to a second vote.

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They are increasingly warming up to the idea that Donald Trump will be better for the party considering Cruz's recent gaffes, increasing unpopularity, and inability to in the vote.

Pure conjecture...
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