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Old 05-05-2016, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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Hillary's past is extremely well-known. The mud-slinging will never stop, but Hillary's been enduring it for decades.
You're missing one important element.....it will be trump doing the mud-slinging against hil, assuming she's the nominee/not indicted.

I'll say it again.....like him or not, one has to be impressed how he was the only man left standing, defeating 16 others, many very well funded/very well seasoned politicians and took a barrage of attacks from them and dished out a bunch of his own and he prevailed. I'm frankly stunned at the guys talent how he accomplished this.

Personally, I would NOT want to be on the other side of this guy.....he's a master at slapping people down and coming out the winner in the end.

Words to the wise:

Democrats to Clinton: Don't laugh off Trump threat - POLITICO

"“It’s fair to say there’s been a graveyard already out there of people underestimating him,” said Doug Sosnik, a former Bill Clinton White House adviser. “And I am old enough to remember the sort of Democratic intelligentsia that was hoping Ronald Reagan would be nominated by Republicans in 1980 because everyone knew he was a doddering old right winger who could never get elected president.”"
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Old 05-05-2016, 12:44 PM
 
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^Hillary has never faced a hard election. She is totally unprepared for what's to come and decades of spinning it isn't going to save her from fact now.

She's gonna fall and fall hard.
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Old 05-05-2016, 12:45 PM
 
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You're missing one important element.....it will be trump doing the mud-slinging against hil, assuming she's the nominee/not indicted.

I'll say it again.....like him or not, one has to be impressed how he was the only man left standing, defeating 16 others, many very well funded/very well seasoned politicians and took a barrage of attacks from them and dished out a bunch of his own and he prevailed.

Personally, I would NOT want to be on the other side of this guy.....he's a master at slapping people down and coming out the winner in the end.

Words to the wise:

Democrats to Clinton: Don't laugh off Trump threat - POLITICO

"“It’s fair to say there’s been a graveyard already out there of people underestimating him,” said Doug Sosnik, a former Bill Clinton White House adviser. “And I am old enough to remember the sort of Democratic intelligentsia that was hoping Ronald Reagan would be nominated by Republicans in 1980 because everyone knew he was a doddering old right winger who could never get elected president.”"
You're the one missing the point.

A person who will sink so low as to publicly smear his opponent's father as possibly being involved in the JFK assassination is a person without character. If he slaps Hillary down using such egregious tactics, it will demonstrate to Americans that Trump is lacking in character and integrity. And oddly enough, most Americans do want a President to have those characteristics.
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Old 05-05-2016, 12:46 PM
 
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^Hillary has never faced a hard election. She is totally unprepared for what's to come and decades of spinning it isn't going to save her from fact now.

She's gonna fall and fall hard.
She already fell once ... flash back to '08.
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Old 05-05-2016, 12:48 PM
 
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^Hillary has never faced a hard election. She is totally unprepared for what's to come and decades of spinning it isn't going to save her from fact now.

She's gonna fall and fall hard.
The 2008 primaries were a hard election. Yes, she lost to Barack Obama. And we'll see how the campaign against Trump goes. Of course, Trump has never faced a hard election at all. Hillary is much more the veteran campaigner than Trump.
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Old 05-05-2016, 12:53 PM
 
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She already fell once ... flash back to '08.
Obama didn't hit her like Trump will. Even with that, she was left with fits of rage and crying.

Hillary has been surrounded by "yes people" for so long, she has absolutely no idea how the real America fels about her, and she is totally unable, beyond playing the victim card, to deal with criticism.
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Old 05-05-2016, 01:00 PM
 
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You're the one missing the point.

A person who will sink so low as to publicly smear his opponent's father as possibly being involved in the JFK assassination is a person without character. If he slaps Hillary down using such egregious tactics, it will demonstrate to Americans that Trump is lacking in character and integrity. And oddly enough, most Americans do want a President to have those characteristics.
Cruz lost. Please accept this. All is fair in love, war, and politics.

"Character and integrity" with the word clinton in the same sentence? Seriously?

Someone, hil, who proclaims to be for woman/their rights yet herself remains with a guy who's fooling around on her, cheating on her, publicly embarrasses her, breaking the vow of marriage when her husband is messing around with an intern/young woman right under her nose, in the WH yet(!), in the end standing by this guy, basically endorsing such behavior as "no worries!", shouldn't be brought up as a major personality/morality flaw in one who wants to lead our nation? One can't question this behavior/wonder what kind of person would make such a decision while saying/proclaiming they are pro woman?

April Fools joke in May, right?
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Old 05-05-2016, 01:09 PM
 
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Obama didn't hit her like Trump will. Even with that, she was left with fits of rage and crying.

Hillary has been surrounded by "yes people" for so long, she has absolutely no idea how the real America fels about her, and she is totally unable, beyond playing the victim card, to deal with criticism.
Thanks for sharing your OPINION about her. We'll just have to wait and see how this election turns out.
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Old 05-05-2016, 01:12 PM
 
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Cruz lost. Please accept this. All is fair in love, war, and politics.

"Character and integrity" with the word clinton in the same sentence? Seriously?

Someone, hil, who proclaims to be for woman/their rights yet herself remains with a guy who's fooling around on her, cheating on her, publicly embarrasses her, breaking the vow of marriage when her husband is messing around with an intern/young woman right under her nose, in the WH yet(!), in the end standing by this guy, basically endorsing such behavior as "no worries!", shouldn't be brought up as a major personality/morality flaw in one who wants to lead our nation? One can't question this behavior/wonder what kind of person would make such a decision while saying/proclaiming they are pro woman?

April Fools joke in May, right?
So what if Cruz lost?

What Trump did was beyond low. That you don't seem to get this is very troubling.

It is no one's business if a couple decide to stay together after infidelity. It's is strictly up to the couple. The fact that you put Hillary down for deciding to stay with her husband, combined with the fact that you are totally okay with Trump's smear tactics tells us exactly who has the personality/morality flaw.
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Old 05-05-2016, 01:17 PM
 
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So what if Cruz lost?

What Trump did was beyond low. That you don't seem to get this is very troubling.

It is no one's business if a couple decide to stay together after infidelity. It's is strictly up to the couple. The fact that you put Hillary down for deciding to stay with her husband, combined with the fact that you are totally okay with Trump's smear tactics tells us exactly who has the personality/morality flaw.
But she's running for public office and preaches a pro woman attitude with a vengeance as a major part of her platform/what she stands for yet stays with a cheating husband like it's nothing IS indeed an issue. Let me make it clearer to what the issue is here that I thought was obvious in my previous post:

Hypocrite | Define Hypocrite at Dictionary.com

"a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, especially a person whose actions belie stated beliefs. "
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