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Old 05-13-2016, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Originally Posted by Shankapotomus View Post
They could easily stop him by running as a third party candidate.

Split the vote and Trump is done.
and hand it to Hillary? This is the problem facing the party right how: stick with a medicine man that has fooled everyone or choose a third party candidate and lose for sure?
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Old 05-13-2016, 03:34 PM
 
Location: In the reddest part of the bluest state
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Wait, wait, wait...you guys have it all backwards. It won't be the republicans putting forth a third party candidate, the third party candidate will be trump. Remember, the convention is a meeting of a private club. IF they can figure out some way to gerrymander the rules and put nominate a more establishment candidate, it will be trump looking from the outside in, not the other way 'round. IF they can screw trump, HE will be the one forced to mount an independent campaign. Would he do so knowing absolutely certain he could not win with a divided conservative vote? I say again, the republican #nevertrump crowd has a simple math problem before them...if they can work the math, trump goes. They will then count on the current crop of trump supporters to fade away in time and gather back in the faithful as they can. The next president will most likely have a recession on his/her hands since we have been in one of the longest growth patterns in some time. If they have that, and a coherent message in 2020, the may be able to make HRC a one term president.
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Old 05-13-2016, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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It's very interesting, and significant, to note that when the campaigns started Trump was put in the hot seat with demands that he promise to support the Republican nominee, whomever it may be.

He did that.

Now, some of them won't support him. Who, then, is a 'man (or woman) of their word' ?
Let's be honest; we have no idea what he would have done had he not been the winner. Chances are he would have run as a 3rd party. He as much as indicated that. The whole support thing was a joke from day one. Most everyone knew it.
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Old 05-13-2016, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Running as a third party takes work - as you're not guaranteed to be on the ballot come November. It's taken decades for the Libertarian party to finally become the "third" party on all 50 state ballots, plus DC this November. Counting on people to write in a name - then counting on the election officials to do their due justice and count those write-ins...probably not a wise campaign plan either.
chances a 3rd party candidate was chosen now, he/she would easily be on every ballot.
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Old 05-13-2016, 05:15 PM
 
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That he is a person and an intellect of real quality. Certainly compared to the cheesy garbage represented by Shrillary and the Trumpster.
I have so much respect for you, I wish I could shake your hand! There are very few people on this forum, let alone in this world who are as honest as you are being. It gives me hope to see that there are people in this country that put our country before the party. I know that I am an active member of the Republican party and I am a Jew, but I can honestly say that if someone like Joe Lieberman was running against Donald, I would not question for one minute, voting for Lieberman over Donald.

Your post basically proves what has happened in politics in the last 50 years. The party politics have become so divisive and issue driven that voters no longer care about the character of the candidate they are voting for, or whether they have the skills and knowledge to do the job.

rep times infinity


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Old 05-13-2016, 05:23 PM
 
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Wait, wait, wait...you guys have it all backwards. It won't be the republicans putting forth a third party candidate, the third party candidate will be trump. Remember, the convention is a meeting of a private club. IF they can figure out some way to gerrymander the rules and put nominate a more establishment candidate, it will be trump looking from the outside in, not the other way 'round. IF they can screw trump, HE will be the one forced to mount an independent campaign. Would he do so knowing absolutely certain he could not win with a divided conservative vote? I say again, the republican #nevertrump crowd has a simple math problem before them...if they can work the math, trump goes. They will then count on the current crop of trump supporters to fade away in time and gather back in the faithful as they can. The next president will most likely have a recession on his/her hands since we have been in one of the longest growth patterns in some time. If they have that, and a coherent message in 2020, the may be able to make HRC a one term president.
The Republican party is a private ORGANIZATION, not a club. You don't "gerrymander" rules.

Do you even know what Robert's Rules of Order is? If not, you should educate yourself before trying to mock something you know nothing about. It makes you look simple.

And Donald is not a Republican, so why do you think the Republicans have any duty to nominate his as their candidate?

#NeverTrump
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Old 05-13-2016, 05:27 PM
 
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I think it is for the best if conservatives do not field a third-party option, because then the Trumpettes will have a ready made excuse for why he lost the election. At this point in time, it is just best to let Trump's candidacy die a natural death.

I understand the argument for running a third-party candidate; namely, that such a candidacy will limit the down-ballot bloodbath for the GOP. However, I am hopeful that in 2018 the GOP will recoup the huge losses it suffers this year.
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Old 05-13-2016, 08:47 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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and hand it to Hillary? This is the problem facing the party right how: stick with a medicine man that has fooled everyone or choose a third party candidate and lose for sure?
I'd rather do the latter. I don't want to violate Godwin's law but the world would be a far better place if timid German politicians didn't coalesce with Hitler, gambling that he'd pick them to be in his coalition. An electoral defeat would have served German and the world a lot better.
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Old 05-13-2016, 11:09 PM
 
Location: In the reddest part of the bluest state
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The Republican party is a private ORGANIZATION, not a club. You don't "gerrymander" rules.

Do you even know what Robert's Rules of Order is? If not, you should educate yourself before trying to mock something you know nothing about. It makes you look simple.

And Donald is not a Republican, so why do you think the Republicans have any duty to nominate his as their candidate?

#NeverTrump
No, using cutesy emoticons makes you look simple. Crack open your thesaurus club and organization mean the same thing. Roberts rules of order only apply if the parties agree that they do. They don't occur organically or by default like gravity. And you last sentence actually agrees with my post so I don't get your point.
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Old 05-14-2016, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Caribou, Me.
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Except for the Never Trump crowd, I was neutral about the Republicans who were upset with Trump winning. (The Never Trumpers are just gross and disgusting). I understand that people can be upset (heck, I liked Cruz. And of course, as a conservative Republican, I have long been accustomed to being disappointed by my party on a regular basis).

But now, unless the disappointed Republicans come around and support our nominee, I am lumping them all in with the Never Trumpers. To wit, I LOATHE them as much as possible. Their whining and nastiness just don't seem to be abating. God, the Trump bashers in the GOP are gross, disgusting people. Just fowl, nasty people.
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