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Old 05-19-2016, 08:10 AM
 
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Bernie Sanders, Eyeing Convention, Willing to Harm Hillary Clinton in the Homestretch

By PATRICK HEALY, YAMICHE ALCINDOR and JEREMY W. PETERSMAY 18, 2016


Defiant and determined to transform the Democratic Party, Senator Bernie Sanders is opening a two-month phase of his presidential campaign aimed at inflicting a heavy blow on Hillary Clinton in California and amassing enough leverage to advance his agenda at the convention in July — or even wrest the nomination from her.


Advisers to Mr. Sanders said on Wednesday that he was newly resolved to remain in the race, seeing an aggressive campaign as his only chance to pressure Democrats into making fundamental changes to how presidential primaries and debates are held in the future. They said he also held out hope of capitalizing on any late stumbles by Mrs. Clinton or any damage to her candidacy, whether by scandal or by the presumptive Republican nominee, Donald J. Trump.
After sounding subdued if not downbeat about the race for weeks, Mr. Sanders resumed a combative posture against Mrs. Clinton, demanding on Wednesday that she debate him before the June 7 primary in California and highlighting anew what he asserted were her weaknesses against Mr. Trump.
Mr. Sanders, his advisers said, has been buoyed by a stream of polls showing him beating Mr. Trump by larger margins than Mrs. Clinton in some battleground states, and by his belief that an upset victory in California could have a psychological impact on convention delegates who already have doubts about Mrs. Clinton.


But his newly resolute attitude is also the cumulative result of months of anger at the national Democratic Party over a debate schedule that his campaign said favored Mrs. Clinton; a fund-raising arrangement between the party and the Clinton campaign; the appointment of fierce Clinton partisans as leaders of important convention committees; and the party’s rebuke of Mr. Sanders on Tuesday for not clearly condemning a melee at the Nevada Democratic convention on Saturday.


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/19/us...tism.html?_r=0
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Old 05-19-2016, 08:12 AM
 
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I see he's demanded yet another debate. I hope she says NO; we do not need an umpteenth debate now.
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Old 05-19-2016, 08:15 AM
 
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If Bernie has any integrity, he would do whatever he can to prevent Hillary from becoming president, because she is the complete opposite of everything he says he stands for.
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Old 05-19-2016, 08:25 AM
 
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If Bernie has any integrity, he would do whatever he can to prevent Hillary from becoming president, because she is the complete opposite of everything he says he stands for.
No - Trump is. Which is why Bernie said he would work night and day to ensure that Trump does not get elected.
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Old 05-19-2016, 08:31 AM
 
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Bernie Sanders, Eyeing Convention, Willing to Harm Hillary Clinton in the Homestretch

By PATRICK HEALY, YAMICHE ALCINDOR and JEREMY W. PETERSMAY 18, 2016


Defiant and determined to transform the Democratic Party, Senator Bernie Sanders is opening a two-month phase of his presidential campaign aimed at inflicting a heavy blow on Hillary Clinton in California and amassing enough leverage to advance his agenda at the convention in July — or even wrest the nomination from her.


Advisers to Mr. Sanders said on Wednesday that he was newly resolved to remain in the race, seeing an aggressive campaign as his only chance to pressure Democrats into making fundamental changes to how presidential primaries and debates are held in the future. They said he also held out hope of capitalizing on any late stumbles by Mrs. Clinton or any damage to her candidacy, whether by scandal or by the presumptive Republican nominee, Donald J. Trump.
After sounding subdued if not downbeat about the race for weeks, Mr. Sanders resumed a combative posture against Mrs. Clinton, demanding on Wednesday that she debate him before the June 7 primary in California and highlighting anew what he asserted were her weaknesses against Mr. Trump.
Mr. Sanders, his advisers said, has been buoyed by a stream of polls showing him beating Mr. Trump by larger margins than Mrs. Clinton in some battleground states, and by his belief that an upset victory in California could have a psychological impact on convention delegates who already have doubts about Mrs. Clinton.


But his newly resolute attitude is also the cumulative result of months of anger at the national Democratic Party over a debate schedule that his campaign said favored Mrs. Clinton; a fund-raising arrangement between the party and the Clinton campaign; the appointment of fierce Clinton partisans as leaders of important convention committees; and the party’s rebuke of Mr. Sanders on Tuesday for not clearly condemning a melee at the Nevada Democratic convention on Saturday.


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/19/us...tism.html?_r=0
That's the way it's supposed to work. The nomination ought to be in fierce contention right into the convention.


That's especially true now that polls show Clinton trailing Trump because of integrity issues she can't answer while Sanders still leads Trump.
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Old 05-19-2016, 08:38 AM
 
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No - Trump is. Which is why Bernie said he would work night and day to ensure that Trump does not get elected.
Hillary is quite different from Sanders.

They're both pathologic liars, but Clinton does it to line her own pockets and increase own power. She doesn't give a s*** about the people or the country but knows there are enough idiots dumb enough to believe her lies so she can enrich and empower herself.

Sanders actually thinks his BS will help people but he's not in it for himself.
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Old 05-19-2016, 08:58 AM
 
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No - Trump is. Which is why Bernie said he would work night and day to ensure that Trump does not get elected.
I Like I said, if he had any integrity.

And besides, Bernie, and Trump share much more in common policy wise, than Bernie, and Hillary.
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Old 05-19-2016, 09:25 AM
 
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No - Trump is. Which is why Bernie said he would work night and day to ensure that Trump does not get elected.
Trump against the trade deals...Bernie against the trade deals. Hillary for them.

Trump for securing the borders. Bernie for securing the borders. Hillary against that.

Trump and Bernie are both against Obamacare. Hillary is good with it.

Bernie and Hillary couldn't be further apart on Wall Street and the wars. Trump is hard to tell.
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Old 05-19-2016, 09:26 AM
 
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Hillary is quite different from Sanders.

They're both pathologic liars, but Clinton does it to line her own pockets and increase own power. She doesn't give a s*** about the people or the country but knows there are enough idiots dumb enough to believe her lies so she can enrich and empower herself.

Sanders actually thinks his BS will help people but he's not in it for himself.
Just arguing this....not that I believe you are right, but if you believe in something and truly believe in it and it turned out wrong, that is not the definition of a lie.
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Old 05-19-2016, 09:28 AM
 
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No - Trump is. Which is why Bernie said he would work night and day to ensure that Trump does not get elected.
That will only happen when the Demoratic candidate runs on a strong social democratic agenda so millions of people feel they are represented. If not, say hello to Trump.
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