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Old 06-14-2016, 05:00 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Originally Posted by dechatelet View Post
So what?

The fact that we already have Muslim terrorists in this country means that we shouldn't try to prevent more from coming?

That's like saying, We already have murderers in this country, so let's not try to prevent more murderers from coming here.

Typical lib "logic".

You can easily go to the store and buy materials for a bomb.

Just ask the Tsarnaev brothers.

That's because ordinary Americans -- including congressmen and senators -- have been put on the no-fly list.

It's just like TSA inspecting granny in a wheel chair -- while swarthy young men in robes and dark glasses walk onto the plane without being questioned.

Yes, that's how stupid this country is.
We could also ask Timothy McVeigh about bomb supplies.

Are guns maybe an issue too? Perhaps we could ask James Holmes, Adam Lanza, Erik Harris, Dylan Klebold, or Chris Mercer about how easy it is to purchase guns. This is just a very brief synopsis. There are many more people we could ask--most aren't Muslims.

This reason for this shooting isn't as simplistic as you want to make it. It's sophomoric to suggest that banning Muslims (acts for ISIS have all been home grown, domestic, citizens) and ignore the gun elephant in the room. As for who cares, we all should.

No, we can't probe the gun issues. Who cares? Typical tea party logic right there
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Old 06-14-2016, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Renton - Fairwood, Washington
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Donald's solutions of a wall on the Mexican border and banning Muslim immigrants from entering the US wouldn't have impacted the Orlando shooting.
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So what?

The fact that we already have Muslim terrorists in this country means that we shouldn't try to prevent more from coming?
I saw Killary saying in a speech that the vast majority of Muslims were peace loving so ( Trump) was a bigot to suggest we stop Islamic immigration. If only 1 /10 of 1% of the next Million Islamics to enter our country are terrorist inclined , we got it made because that's only 1000 of them to attack us in one of our ultra-safe " gun free " zones . Sure makes me feel safer when I look at the numbers that way . Are people stupid enough to buy into Killary's BS ? Her statements might actually backfire on her.
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Old 06-14-2016, 02:44 PM
 
Location: 57
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Default A thought experiment.

Which will be more difficult: restricting dangerous weapons from American civil society so that angry/crazy/militant/aggrieved people can't get them, or getting rid of anyone who is ever likely to go over the edge and pick up a weapon if it were available to them?
And, after we accomplished this, which country would look more like an America you could stand to live in?
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Old 06-14-2016, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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Obama stands with ISIS and against America. Hope his speech didn't surprise you.
so why the hell is he responsible for killing thousands of ISIS members?
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Old 06-14-2016, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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Trump takes a victory lap hours after the slaughter/massacre of innocent Americans.

Not presidential. Question if he's even a true American. The traitor brought up birther and tried to delegitimize our President of the United States. Now this response to a heinous attack by making it about himself. All in all a very despicable human being.

Now he gloats over possibly being correct about terror in the United States.

BTW, this guy that committed this act was an American citizen born and raised, so Trump's muslim ban had nothing to do with what happened in Orlando.
Wow, it's as if Pres Obama and SecState Clinton read my post.

Obama, Clinton Rail Against Trump Over Orlando Shooting Comments « CBS Miami
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Old 06-15-2016, 05:24 AM
 
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Why, because Democrats refuse to be as fascist as the Republicans?
Godwin's Law fail.

It's not fascist to want to stop illegal immigration -- it is illegal, after all -- or to keep Muslims who want to kill us out of this country.

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Another chapter being followed in Main Kampf, Trump's night time reading.
Another Godwin's Law fail.

Do they pay you guys by the post?

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Nobody is talking about the home-grown, white-bread Indiana man who was on his way to commit a similar mass murder in LA yesterday. That one, luckily, was stopped before it happened. But. noooooo, only terrorists commit mass murders, right?
We can't throw out home-grown, "white-bread" U.S. citizens.

But we CAN prevent Muslims -- whose religion calls for killing, converting or oppressing "infidels" -- from coming here.

And we should.

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As a Democrat who supports Trump - you've got it wrong. Just because we support Trump does not mean we want to live in the 1950's. It does not mean we hate minorities or those who worship differently than us. What it does mean is the American people again taking responsibility for their actions and quit trying to blame their problems on someone else. Obama has been good at blaming not only Republicans, but whites and the citizens of the United States for the world's problems thereby creating problems and making things worse.

We have a dumbing down of the people, institutions that no longer teach and allow one to think for themselves - but creating young adults who graduate with useless degrees and call everyone who doesn't believe in the liberal BS they've been fed racists.

It's too bad they got to you too. See no amount of education can actually make a person smart if they don't know how to think for themselves and use the brain God gave them.
Well said.

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The don't have any. The just repeat the same moronic crap over and over again while ignoring facts.

Trumpette: "Build the wall!"

Rational Human: "The terrorist was a natural born American. A wall would not keep out someone who was already here."
But we're supposed to let more like him in?

You were saying about people being "moronic"?

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Not saying Trump would have prevented it but I would like to know how the FBI can investigate this guy over a 2 year period but yet nothing was done.
Good question.

He was able to buy guns, get what ever security clearances were needed to guard a government facility, wasn't put on the no-fly list....Good job, Obama!

Just like the great job Obama did dealing with Major Hassan, who had made his Jihadi intentions very clear -- even corresponding with Al Queda -- before he murdered U.S. soldiers at Fort Hood.

Soldiers who weren't even allowed to carry their own weapons on base.

And then, after that attack -- in which Hassan yelled "Alahu Akbar!" ("Allah is great!"), the whole incident was classified as "workplace violence" having nothing to do with Islamic terrorism.

This is what happens when you put lib traitors in charge of the government.

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The Gun Blame game is utter Ridiculous ....Absolute L U D I C R O U S !!!

If 'they' don't have guns, they'll use bombs, like they did at Boston Marathon a few years ago.

The Ban Guns Issue can Only restrict citizens from personal P R O T E C T I O N.
If the people in Pulse Nightclub had been allowed to have guns, a lot fewer people would have been killed by the Islamic terrorist.

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Extremists may be raised to hate Jews but ordinary Muslims aren't. (Many of them hate the idea of Israel as a state, but not the Jews in particular.) If you come to California, you'll find many Jews and Muslims living peacefully side by side in Beverly Hills which would not be possible if they hated each other.
Why wouldn't it be?

Rich people have their privacy and don't care who they live around as long as the people they live around are also rich.

And your claim that ordinary Muslims don't hate Jews...where does that come from?

Did you take a poll?

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Really? Our First Amendment means nothing to you? You prefer to live in a dictatorship? Why don't you move?
What a weird reply to my post, in which I pointed out that the Muslim religion is anti-democratic, anti-personal freedom, anti-religious pluralism, anti-secularist, anti-human rights, etc.

But I'M the one who wants a dictatorship -- not the Muslims!

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No one should congratulate him. It turns out the man was gay or gay questioning and his motives may have been much more personal than ISIS. Trump should learn to not shoot his mouth off without facts.
You seem to be unaware of the FACT that this "gay or gay questioning" man CELEBRATED the 9/11 attacks right after they happened according to his high school classmates.

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We could also ask Timothy McVeigh about bomb supplies.

Are guns maybe an issue too? Perhaps we could ask James Holmes, Adam Lanza, Erik Harris, Dylan Klebold, or Chris Mercer about how easy it is to purchase guns. This is just a very brief synopsis. There are many more people we could ask--most aren't Muslims.
So what?

We have a choice about letting more Muslims into this country.

Your argument is like someone saying, We already have murderers here, so let's allow more murderers in!



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It's sophomoric to suggest that banning Muslims (acts for ISIS have all been home grown, domestic, citizens) and ignore the gun elephant in the room.
Well, you're wrong.

Tashfeen Malik, one of the San Bernardino killers, was NOT "home grown." She came here from Saudi Arabia.

She and her husband could have used bombs. In fact, they did use some bombs.

As for guns, their victims were helpless victims in a "gun free" zone.

A lot fewer of them would have been killed or injured if they had been allowed to have their own guns and shoot back.

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Typical tea party logic right there
"Typical tea party logic" is a lot better than your logic.

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I saw Killary saying in a speech that the vast majority of Muslims were peace loving so ( Trump) was a bigot to suggest we stop Islamic immigration. If only 1 /10 of 1% of the next Million Islamics to enter our country are terrorist inclined , we got it made because that's only 1000 of them to attack us in one of our ultra-safe " gun free " zones . Sure makes me feel safer when I look at the numbers that way . Are people stupid enough to buy into Killary's BS ?
Sadly -- based on this thread -- the answer to that question is "yes."

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