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Originally Posted by PullMyFinger
I'm talking about Hillary. The Bush Saudi connection is old news and I didn't like that either. I'm talking about a woman running for president looking the other way on women being oppressed by people she is taking money from.
But when Donny takes Saudi $$$ for an apartment in one of his buildings or does business in other countries with horrid human rights records that's just fine and dandy?
The Bible does not tell her to do that. She may say (if she is allowed to speak to people) it does because that is her hubby's interpretation of it. There's something wrong with that family.
It's not just one woman. It's an entire church. And the Pentecostal religion has churches all over America. And they claim that the Bible does tell them to submit to their husbands, the Bible does tell them not to cut their hair, the Bible does tell them these things. And the Pentecostals aren't the only Christians who believe this. Many Baptists follow similar tenets.
Who are you to say there's something wrong with them? Aren't they free to practice their religion as they see fit, to interpret the Bible as they wish? Maybe they are right. Maybe misogyny is what God intended, maybe he wanted women to be subjugate to men. That is what Abraham told his followers, that is part of the message in the Bible.
And the woman in the Middle East that believe these things, too, are simply practicing their faith. They believe in what their religion tells them, just like millions of Americans believe in what their religion teaches. That's what faith is. It doesn't need common sense, it doesn't need proof, it doesn't need to be rational. It's simple faith.
Whether we need them or not, they exist in this world, alongside us, and ignoring their existence isn't going to benefit anyone. More than that, we sat in on the political reorganization of the Middle East a century ago, and while England and France may have driven that reorganization more than thus, the fact is that the modern Middle East is very much a Western creature. As we benefited from that reorganization, and continue to benefit from it, it is unreasonable to demand that we now ignore that region, and let them deal with the fallout of the world we helped to create.
There is a pretty large gap between ignoring their existence and feeding them BILLIONs in weapons/arms while ignoring their support and funding of terrorism and atrocious human rights record.
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Originally Posted by Ringo1
Didn't Bush fly out the Bin Laden family right after 9/11?
Yep-even though the entire American airspace was shut down. Absurdity! #releasethe28pages
But when Donny takes Saudi $$$ for an apartment in one of his buildings or does business in other countries with horrid human rights records that's just fine and dandy?
Donny is a businessman. He should be taking everyone's money he's in business with.
Hillary is a career politician. She has been bought and paid for by foreign people who do not allow women to drive a car much less have a chance at being anything close to equal in their society.
How was South Africa so evil but Liberals look the other way on this?
There is a pretty large gap between ignoring their existence and feeding them BILLIONs in weapons/arms while ignoring their support and funding of terrorism and atrocious human rights record.
You said you wanted to leave that region, cut all economic ties, essentially leave them to their own devices. Which ignores that if the United States absents itself from the region, that Russia or China will still rush to fill the void. And the United States abandoning the region isn't going to create good will toward the United States.
So what you're advocating is that we give up all leverage in that region, let Russia and China reap the benefits, while also letting Russia and China sell them arms that may find their targets here and in Europe.
It's common knowledge that she takes millions of dollars from the Saudis through political contributions. Women are not allowed to drive there, women are property of men, not equal partners. How can progressives look the other way on these facts?
She actually doesn't get away with it at all. That's why her approval numbers are around 39% - and that's AFTER she nailed the nomination.
Disapproval at around 56%.
Indictment...pending.
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