Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Elections
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 12-28-2015, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Seattle
1,384 posts, read 2,699,420 times
Reputation: 1378

Advertisements

Time to face facts: Donald Trump could very well win - Telegraph

Quote:
And what is more, I don’t think it’s a foregone conclusion that Hillary Clinton would destroy him in the general election, either.
Whats this? Are they finally starting to move on from the denial stage?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 12-28-2015, 08:39 PM
 
4,081 posts, read 3,619,116 times
Reputation: 1235
I'm sure the Telegraph would LOVE to see a Trump nomination considering they're a Liberal newspaper. Trump is the DNC's dream opponent.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-28-2015, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Sweet Home Chicago!
6,721 posts, read 6,521,236 times
Reputation: 9920
Rubber is about to hit the road! Let's go Trump!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-28-2015, 08:43 PM
 
16,212 posts, read 10,860,682 times
Reputation: 8442
Eh, maybe because this link is from an English source, but the author didn't mention anything about the delegate voting process. The primaries are not a one-nighter and voting occurs over many months for the GOP nomination.

I personally don't think Trump will win the nomination based on the fact that he more than likely won't win Iowa and because of the nature of primary and delegate voting.

Another article for you - Donald Trump Won't Win as a Republican or Independent

Quote:
And here's why he's unlikely to win more delegates than that: Winning national party delegates is a long, hard, and complicated process. It happens on a state-by-state basis, under different rules, and over a period of five months. Heck, even if Donald Trump were to win Iowa (which he isn't likely to do and which would then likely cause his campaign's premise of him being a winner to fall apart), his delegates would have to make it through three more rounds of selection

Aside from those types of party machinations, the more crucial issue for Trump is that given his incendiary and non-inclusive rhetoric, it is highly unlikely that he can win the many national delegates that are up for grabs in the "blue" congressional districts. As David Wasserman has shown, once the field winnows, the moderate "establishment" candidate will likely have a "hidden structural advantage: the party's delegate math and geography." In essence, were the Republican nomination race to come down to Trump, Cruz, and Sen. Marco Rubio (or another one of the more establishment favored candidates, like Govs. Chris Christie or John Kasich), then it is quite possible that Rubio, while perhaps not gaining a majority, could wind up with a plurality of the delegates because he'd be likely be the recipient of the large number of delegates in the later, "blue" state (i.e., California and New York) primaries.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-28-2015, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Sweet Home Chicago!
6,721 posts, read 6,521,236 times
Reputation: 9920
Quote:
Originally Posted by residinghere2007 View Post
Eh, maybe because this link is from an English source, but the author didn't mention anything about the delegate voting process. The primaries are not a one-nighter and voting occurs over many months for the GOP nomination.

I personally don't think Trump will win the nomination based on the fact that he more than likely won't win Iowa and because of the nature of primary and delegate voting.

Another article for you - Donald Trump Won't Win as a Republican or Independent
Not this nonsense again... Will never happen. Trump will win all after Iowa (and maybe Iowa too). If the GOP doesn't play fair, Trump will run as an Independent and that will guarantee a loss for the selected "establishment" GOP candidate. Even if he didn't run Independent, any unfair tactics by the GOP will result in a massive backlash. Don't underestimate the anger of GOP voters right now. Trumps rise is just as much due to anti-GOP sentiment as it is Pro Trump support.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-28-2015, 11:40 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
8,602 posts, read 11,042,811 times
Reputation: 10858
Quote:
Originally Posted by residinghere2007 View Post
Eh, maybe because this link is from an English source, but the author didn't mention anything about the delegate voting process. The primaries are not a one-nighter and voting occurs over many months for the GOP nomination.

I personally don't think Trump will win the nomination based on the fact that he more than likely won't win Iowa and because of the nature of primary and delegate voting.

Another article for you - Donald Trump Won't Win as a Republican or Independent
It is plain to see you are using history as your yardstick to measure this election.
What you and many others need to understand is, this election will be like no other in history, due to Trump.
You can sit and babble all you want, and quote facts and numbers, but when it comes right down to it, no one knows who is going to be the next president, and we certainly can not use prior election as a yardstick because this election will be different than any before it.

Protocols that worked in the past won't work this time around.
States that are presently blue may very well be red before this election is over.
The message is loud and clear, people are tired of politics as usual, and I believe this will be the election that will get the highest percentage of voters, ever.

In this election, there are no certainties as in previous elections.
I believe the country is ripe for change from the same ole, same ole.
People who never voted before will vote this time around.
Change is coming, and the establishment of both parties had better take note.
The good old days of the good ole boys is over, and for once the voters will speak.

Some say the electoral college is the one that picks the president, and that is factual, but the electoral votes of each state will, with the exception of a couple of states, be winner takes all, and that is where I believe we are going to see big upsets.


Bob.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-29-2015, 12:04 AM
 
Location: Tip of the Sphere. Just the tip.
4,540 posts, read 2,781,831 times
Reputation: 5277
I can't tell if Trump is gonna be the GOP's savior or lead them to their doom. A compelling argument can be made either way.

But what we do know is that it'll be YUGE!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-29-2015, 12:24 AM
 
733 posts, read 1,049,170 times
Reputation: 2738
I'm not a Trump fan but anyone who thinks he couldn't win may be in for a rude awakening.

In 1980, I remember the Dem's dream opponent was Ronald Reagan. Despite being a 2 term California governor, everyone just knew he was a crackpot who could never be taken seriously. After all...Bedtime For Bonzo? A staunch cold warrior in the era of detente? Tree's caused air pollution?

All the experts knew that George HW Bush, Howard Baker, even John Connally would be much tougher in the general election.

Funny how things turned out.

Also, in case one forgets. California has elected as governors political novices/ex- movie actors Reagan and also Ahnold. Super liberal Minnesota elected former pro wrestler Jesse Ventura as governor not too long ago. Never underestimate the power of celebrity.

Trump may end up trumping everybody.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-29-2015, 02:58 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
46,001 posts, read 35,274,753 times
Reputation: 7875
Quote:
Originally Posted by flamadiddle View Post
Not this nonsense again... Will never happen. Trump will win all after Iowa (and maybe Iowa too). If the GOP doesn't play fair, Trump will run as an Independent and that will guarantee a loss for the selected "establishment" GOP candidate. Even if he didn't run Independent, any unfair tactics by the GOP will result in a massive backlash. Don't underestimate the anger of GOP voters right now. Trumps rise is just as much due to anti-GOP sentiment as it is Pro Trump support.
And what will the Trumpets sat when Trump the Birther loses primary after primary?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-29-2015, 03:42 AM
 
628 posts, read 1,318,700 times
Reputation: 551
Quote:
Originally Posted by flamadiddle View Post
Not this nonsense again... Will never happen. Trump will win all after Iowa (and maybe Iowa too). If the GOP doesn't play fair, Trump will run as an Independent and that will guarantee a loss for the selected "establishment" GOP candidate. Even if he didn't run Independent, any unfair tactics by the GOP will result in a massive backlash. Don't underestimate the anger of GOP voters right now. Trumps rise is just as much due to anti-GOP sentiment as it is Pro Trump support.
I agree; in fact, I think Trumps support is more about anti everybody and everything that is entrenched in the "same ole same ole political machine. Anything that reeks of established political norms is what angers Trump supporters....be that PC, failure to enforce the laws, failure of candidates to say what needs to be said for fear of "offending" some race, religion, special interest group or whatever. People are sick of the same old Democratic canned speech and response as well as the Republican BS also. People want real change in this country; enforcement of immigration laws, a congress that actually does something and an executive branch that that the people can be proud of.....remember JFK! Don't count Trump out yet.....not because people like him or see him as the ideal president but rather that they are sick and tired of the same crap espoused by both sides of the establishment
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Elections

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:27 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top