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Old 07-17-2016, 05:21 PM
 
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Try reading. The poster I responded to said a VP has had zero influence in any policy in the last 40 years. I did not even mention how many times a VP had to assume the presidential seat. I never said it that VP is top thing to consider when voting. So before bashing try reading and comprehending and leave assumptions behind.
Despite being a tie breaker in the Senate, they still have ZERO influence, given that others, like the House, and the President need to sign off on it..

If the VP becomes the President, then they are no longer VP, and so saying the VP has influence, would be ridiculous given thats not their title anymore.
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Old 07-17-2016, 05:43 PM
 
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Have you ever voted for a ticket because of the vice president? If so, you are the only one.
This time around, both candidates are pushing 70 and neither looks very healthy.
For forward thinking people, the VP picks are important.
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Old 07-17-2016, 05:44 PM
 
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This time around, both candidates are pushing 70 and neither looks very healthy.
For forward thinking people, the VP picks are important.
Trump is already 70
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Old 07-17-2016, 05:58 PM
 
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Trump is already 70
If everyone died at the same age, that reply would hold alot of value..
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Old 07-17-2016, 09:07 PM
 
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Mike Pence, Trump's new running mate is a globalist establishment puppet. Basically everything that Trump claims he is not. How do Trump supporters square these two thoughts? It seems to me, Trump might as well have picked the leader of BLM. Would you have been happy if the leadership of BLM was the VP as well? They are probably against NAFTA and the TPP.
For NAFTA? Hillary.

For Amnesty? Hillary.

For the Iraq War? Hillary.

For TPP? Depends on which version of Hillary you listen to, since she panders and will say anything:

What Hillary Clinton really said about TPP and the 'gold standard' | PolitiFact

I would be more worried about a President supporting those things than a VP that doesn't do anything.

As for age, everyone used that excuse when McCain ran for president, stating he "might die" while in office, yet that old bag of liberal bones is still kicking. That age argument isn't going to work this time around.
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Old 07-17-2016, 09:11 PM
 
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For NAFTA? Hillary.

For Amnesty? Hillary.

For the Iraq War? Hillary.

For TPP? Depends on which version of Hillary you listen to, since she panders and will say anything:

What Hillary Clinton really said about TPP and the 'gold standard' | PolitiFact

I would be more worried about a President supporting those things than a VP that doesn't do anything.

As for age, everyone used that excuse when McCain ran for president, stating he "might die" while in office, yet that old bag of liberal bones is still kicking. That age argument isn't going to work this time around.
Trump has made it clear that the VP will be his right hand man. A guy who knows the ins and outs of government. The VP is what he really believes. Trump is a total fraud. He panders and will say anything and his VP pick just proves it. He's a globalist puppet of the establishment.
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Old 07-17-2016, 09:14 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Because we don't have a monarchy despite what Obama has tried to make people believe. Our government has 3 branches. Pence would be a part of the executive branch and, frankly, the VP just doesn't have that much input that amounts to much.

No candidate or their VP is going to be perfect and Trump/Pence is the best overall choice. I find Hillary so repulsive on so many levels that I would never, ever vote for her. She has zero positives. So, easy choice, very easy choice.


This isnt about Hillary Clinton, this is about him picking a VP who for the most part lines up with everything he disagrees with.
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Old 07-17-2016, 09:18 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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For NAFTA? Hillary.

For Amnesty? Hillary.

For the Iraq War? Hillary.

For TPP? Depends on which version of Hillary you listen to, since she panders and will say anything:

What Hillary Clinton really said about TPP and the 'gold standard' | PolitiFact

I would be more worried about a President supporting those things than a VP that doesn't do anything.

As for age, everyone used that excuse when McCain ran for president, stating he "might die" while in office, yet that old bag of liberal bones is still kicking. That age argument isn't going to work this time around.
Mike Pence being the VP pick shows me that Trump is exactly what I said he would be. A puppet of the establishment.

If he is elected, his first and only term will just be him being controlled by the Republican establishment. |

The sad part is, if he does win, that will lead to the rise of the Berniecrats and a land slide in their favor and that will lead to a string of 1 term presidents and nothing will get done for an entire generation.
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Old 07-17-2016, 09:22 PM
 
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Mike Pence, Trump's new running mate is a globalist establishment puppet. Basically everything that Trump claims he is not. How do Trump supporters square these two thoughts? It seems to me, Trump might as well have picked the leader of BLM. Would you have been happy if the leadership of BLM was the VP as well? They are probably against NAFTA and the TPP.
The reality is, free trade supports 17 million jobs and jobs related to exports have wages that are on average 15% higher than in other industries. In the years after NAFTA was implemented, we saw the creation of millions of new jobs. These are just facts. Free trade is good for America.

Mike Pence spent his career fighting for fiscal conservatism, free markets, and limited government. He threw away his entire career to join a left-wing demagogue on what will be a losing ticket. Mike Pence is wrong for the Vice Presidency because he has no principles and is a pathetic lightweight.
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Old 07-17-2016, 09:30 PM
 
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The reality is, free trade supports 17 million jobs and jobs related to exports have wages that are on average 15% higher than in other industries. In the years after NAFTA was implemented, we saw the creation of millions of new jobs. These are just facts. Free trade is good for America.

Mike Pence spent his career fighting for fiscal conservatism, free markets, and limited government. He threw away his entire career to join a left-wing demagogue on what will be a losing ticket. Mike Pence is wrong for the Vice Presidency because he has no principles and is a pathetic lightweight.
These deals are not about "free trade". Its like saying North Korea is about democracy and socialism, because its offical name is the people's democratic republic of North Korea.

They are investor rights schemes. Extending anti-competitive patent laws for decades. Shifting power and influence from elected bodies of government towards international tribunals. Big money special interests suing governments left and right if they act on behalf of the people. It has nothing to do with "free markets". Its just corporatism at its worst.
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