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Old 02-21-2008, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Grand Rapids Metro
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Hillary's campaign has spent a whopping $31 Million of her total $105 Million budget on outside campaign consultants so far. $15 Million of that in January alone.

Consultant spending saps Clinton campaign - Kenneth P. Vogel - Politico.com

That's got to make her people feel good. Maybe that's what the $1300 at Dunkin Donuts was for: staff morale booster.

Since her campaign is $7.5 Million in the hole now, plus her own personal loan of $5 Million, I wonder if these consultants are really getting paid? I'd be asking for payment up front if I were them.
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Old 02-21-2008, 02:58 PM
 
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Hillary is already showing a lack of fiscal discipline....and she is not even president yet!
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Old 02-21-2008, 03:05 PM
 
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Hillary's campaign has spent a whopping $31 Million of her total $105 Million budget on outside campaign consultants so far. $15 Million of that in January alone.

Consultant spending saps Clinton campaign - Kenneth P. Vogel - Politico.com

That's got to make her people feel good. Maybe that's what the $1300 at Dunkin Donuts was for: staff morale booster.

Since her campaign is $7.5 Million in the hole now, plus her own personal loan of $5 Million, I wonder if these consultants are really getting paid? I'd be asking for payment up front if I were them.
I think you need to check your facts and realize that Politico.com has its lips firmly attached to Obama's butt cheeks. One of their staff was on CNN championing Obama.

The $5 million loan was repaid days after it was given from hundreds of thousands of little donations from her supporters. And wasn't your side complaining about a group of Hillary supporters raising big bucks for her?

The title of this thread is ridiculous. You make it sound like she's got people in India answering calls for the campaign. How do you "out-source" work that is ALL temporary and done by independent contractors?
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Old 02-21-2008, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Grand Rapids Metro
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I think you need to check your facts and realize that Politico.com has its lips firmly attached to Obama's butt cheeks. One of their staff was on CNN championing Obama.

The $5 million loan was repaid days after it was given from hundreds of thousands of little donations from her supporters. And wasn't your side complaining about a group of Hillary supporters raising big bucks for her?

The title of this thread is ridiculous. You make it sound like she's got people in India answering calls for the campaign. How do you "out-source" work that is ALL temporary and done by independent contractors?
So is her campaign $7.6 Million in debt then, or are they just making that up too?

Oh wait, it looks like it's being reported all over:

hillary campaign debt - Google News

She owes Mark Penn $2 Million. As someone posted elsewhere, I could have run her campaign into the ground for 1/2 that!

I'm not complaining about the group raising funds to buy ads in support of Hillary. It doesn't surprise me.
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Old 02-21-2008, 03:20 PM
 
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The title of this thread is ridiculous. You make it sound like she's got people in India answering calls for the campaign. How do you "out-source" work that is ALL temporary and done by independent contractors?
Technically, hiring independent contractors is "out-sourcing"..
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Old 02-21-2008, 03:29 PM
 
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This is what I've been saying: in the only head-to-head contest between Obama and Hillary testing executive competence and organizational skills, Obama has beaten Hillary hands down. What good is 35 years of experience to you if you can't even show that you are capable of running your own campaign in a competent manner? Hillary's vaunted experience is a myth.
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Old 02-21-2008, 03:55 PM
 
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Technically, hiring independent contractors is "out-sourcing"..
ALL campaign workers are temporary help and many are independent contractors. This isn't permanent employment.
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Old 02-21-2008, 03:57 PM
 
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So is her campaign $7.6 Million in debt then, or are they just making that up too?

Oh wait, it looks like it's being reported all over:

hillary campaign debt - Google News

She owes Mark Penn $2 Million. As someone posted elsewhere, I could have run her campaign into the ground for 1/2 that!

I'm not complaining about the group raising funds to buy ads in support of Hillary. It doesn't surprise me.
You need to read your own sources more carefully. That figure you cited is based on the January report filing and has changed.

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Old 02-21-2008, 04:02 PM
 
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ALL campaign workers are temporary help and many are independent contractors. This isn't permanent employment.
Yes, independent contracts, are outsourced...
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Old 02-21-2008, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Grand Rapids Metro
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You need to read your own sources more carefully. That figure you cited is best on the January report filing and has changed.
Associated Press, 19 hours ago:

The Associated Press: Obama Raised $36 Million (broken link)

My "source" was a compilation of hits in a google news search. They are generally ranked by time and date (most recent being first).

How have her finances changed? Do you have figures you can share with us and the rest of the world?
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