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You're looking at it the wrong way. It's not about sympathizing with him over Mormons, it's yet another dog whistle of "Hey, I'm a REAL Christian, not like that chump Romney in 2012, so you need to get out the vote for me!"
It's such a farce that Trump has won over the Evangelical vote. I mean, I don't vote for a candidate on the basis of religion, but I thought Evangelicals did and yet they swarmed to Trump over people who have a documented history of actual adherence to Christianity and who have actually cracked a Bible and don't say stupid things like "Two Corinthians" when even a non-Christian like me knows that's not the appropriate way to reference it.
This was just playing to the crowd and conjuring up the distrust that more mainline and Evangelical Christianity has had for the Mormon religion.
Maybe you're right, I hadn't seen it that way.
And I agree, Trump cannot be taken seriously as a devout christian.
In my view, evangelicals and mormons have a lot of political views in common, regardless of doctrinal differences and past ugly history. Sane R candidates know this, and make their pitches accordingly
IMO opinion what he is saying to the Evangelicans is that Mormons do not like him and since (in his belief) Evangelicans don't like Mormons then they should rally the troops and vote for him.
IDK but with that statement Utah may very well go blue. Because he just kind of insulted Mormons. You would think he would be more inclusive in his remarks.
I'm glad you are right up front about saying that Trump will violate the First Amendment! That is "the law" Trump would have to repeal to get rid of the separation of church and state. Funny how righties think the Constitution begins and ends with the Second Amendment.
And Hillary is far more of devout and religious Christian than Trump can even imagine. This has been well documented and only a fool would attempt to pretend otherwise.
We have separation of church and state. I do not see that changing unless the Islam ideology continued to move forward and engulfs us with their primitive and barbaric ideals.
Hillary? Her acts have never shown any "Christian" belief, just looking at the 10 Commandments and Hillary
And, yes, one can be forgiven BUT if one is continuing sinning as Hillary and showing no remorse, well, anyone familiar with the Christian religion, not whatever one Hillary is part of, knows what we are dealing with!
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And that would be a good thing because?
Preachers should stick to religion, should they choose to become involved in politics let them pay to play like everyone else.
It's comical how so many who decry any attempts by government to help the less fortunate as SOCIALISM! are perfectly willing to put churches on the Freebie Express.
So you want to limit the free speech of preachers? Oh, that's right, you support Hillary and probably the nut case that got put in their place over this?
Separation of church and state means the state keeps their nose out of the message of the church.
We know that Hillary plans to go after the churches in order to make abortion more palatable, especially partial birth abortion, murder of the pre-born.
Separation of church and state means the state keeps their nose out of the message of the church.
I'm not going to get derailed into a discussion of why the "small" government Republicans want gets to control what women do with their bodies. But this one piece goes both ways. Churches need to keep their nose out of politics if they want to claim the privilege of separate of church and state.
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So you want to limit the free speech of preachers? Oh, that's right, you support Hillary and probably the nut case that got put in their place over this?[/QU)TE]
No, I don't support Hillary and have never stated I did but thanks for showing your willingness to remark on things you know nothing about.
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Separation of church and state means the state keeps their nose out of the message of the church.
It also means the church keeps its nose out of government.
Without that there is no separation.
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We know that Hillary plans to go after the churches in order to make abortion more palatable, especially partial birth abortion, murder of the pre-born.
And you know this HOW? As I've said, you've already demonstrated your willingness to comment on things you know nothing about.
I'm not going to get derailed into a discussion of why the "small" government Republicans want gets to control what women do with their bodies. But this one piece goes both ways. Churches need to keep their nose out of politics if they want to claim the privilege of separate of church and state.
A child inside a woman is not 'her body." What a woman might want to do with my child in her body would greatly concern me.
Trump is not going to excite Evangelicals or Mormons....they might end up voting for him but he's not their guy.
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A child inside a woman is not 'her body." What a woman might want to do with my child in her body would greatly concern me.
Neither a blastocyst nor a fetus is a 'child' nor should either be subject to the whims of a group of (for the most part) gray haired men in Washington.
Neither a blastocyst nor a fetus is a 'child' nor should either be subject to the whims of a group of (for the most part) gray haired men in Washington.
Do you really believe a baby 9 months in the womb and 1 minute from being born is not a child?
Do you really believe a baby 9 months in the womb and 1 minute from being born is not a child?
No one believes that. But no one is talking about a full term baby, either, except you. Show me the statistics of how many full term "one minute from being born" babies are aborted and we'll talk. And since you won't be able to come up with any, that pretty much ends the discussion.
And I will leave it there so we don't derail this thread into an abortion debate.
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