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Old 09-23-2016, 08:39 AM
 
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Was that inaccurate? Post the crime stats by race in NYC for that time.
Once again I thought I had an individual constitutional rights. Who knew others could forfeit them for me or that they were based on dna similarities?


What part of the constitution was degree of dna similarities and rights forfeiture listed again?

 
Old 09-23-2016, 08:52 AM
 
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Oh, no... the Brick Wall has now joined the thread.

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Total BS. Try whipping that out when you try to board a plane while insisting on bypassing TSA checkpoints and see what happens.

When we have lost our Constitutional rights, so have you. See how that works?
Not that ignorant, tired old argument again. I guess we can add constitutional rights to the long list of things you don't know anything about. You genuinely don't grasp the difference between being searched before boarding a plane and being randomly searched while walking down the street? I mean, I/m not at all surprised - I just want to be sure.
 
Old 09-23-2016, 09:21 AM
 
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Once again I thought I had an individual constitutional rights.
I thought I did, too. But I'm searched and body-scanned every time I board a domestic flight.
 
Old 09-23-2016, 09:24 AM
 
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You genuinely don't grasp the difference between being searched before boarding a plane and being randomly searched while walking down the street? I mean, I/m not at all surprised - I just want to be sure.
Explain how it's different. In neither case is there a reason to suspect the individual being searched, other than who they are: Bkack person, air passenger.
 
Old 09-23-2016, 09:29 AM
 
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Explain how it's different. In neither case is there a reason to suspect the individual being searched, other than who they are: Bkack person, air passenger.
Being an air passenger is a choice. Being black is not. You subject yourself to search when you agreed to the terms a condition on your plane ticket (read the fine print).

I did not agree to be searched with the act of being born.
 
Old 09-23-2016, 09:34 AM
 
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Explain how it's different. In neither case is there a reason to suspect the individual being searched, other than who they are: Bkack person, air passenger.
I can't believe I have to explain the difference to anyone old enough to be on the internet, but if you're going to insist on pretending not to know it, then I'll donate 30 seconds. The difference is that in one case, you are making a choice as to whether you wish to board an airplane, and one of the requirements for boarding the airplane is that you consent to being searched for weapons - and in the other case, you are simply going about the normal activities of your day to day life, and the government arbitrarily searches you in violation of the 4th Amendment.

I now sit back and wait to see how you pretend not to understand this. I'll bet you say something like, "If I have to travel for my job, I don't have any choice but to fly." That will be hilarious.
 
Old 09-23-2016, 09:35 AM
 
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Being an air passenger is a choice.
Having to travel for work is a "choice?"

Please don't make us laugh.
 
Old 09-23-2016, 09:39 AM
 
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The difference is that in one case, you are making a choice as to whether you wish to board an airplane, and one of the requirements for boarding the airplane is that you consent to being searched for weapons - and in the other case, you are simply going about the normal activities of your day to day life, and the government arbitrarily searches you in violation of the 4th Amendment.
And in what imaginary world can you tell your employer that you "choose" to not travel when it's required, and still keep your job?

Honestly, do you all NOT live in the real world? Are you just sitting in your parents' basement and posting this ridiculousness? /SMH
 
Old 09-23-2016, 09:40 AM
 
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Having to travel for work is a "choice?"

Please don't make us laugh.
We can continue this over in the thread about stop and frisk.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/elect...l#post45584599
 
Old 09-23-2016, 09:41 AM
 
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And in what imaginary world can you tell your employer that you "choose" to not travel when it's required, and still keep your job?

Honestly, do you all NOT live in the real world? Are you just sitting in your parents' basement and posting this ridiculousness? /SMH
That would be Planet Earth, the world where people choose where they work and what jobs to take or not take.

What world are you posting from? I've always wondered...
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