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How many disgruntled employees does the average multi-billion dollar company have?
Dude, these are NOT employees. They are contractors who did their jobs and was shafted by Trump.
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Originally Posted by eddiehaskell
Put another way, over the last 40 or so years, what percentage of people working for Trump businesses claim to have been stiffed? Are we talking 50% or 1%? If the number is much higher than average it seems like word of mouth would have prevented his businesses from getting much done.
Using % is a very poor way to gauge this because there are big corporations who have the means to fight Trump, and Trump knows better than to pull a fast one on those boys.
Trump also used many businesses with connections to the Mafia, and he knows better than to cheat those people.
So to get a good idea, you'd have to count only those small businesses with no Mob ties. That number is impossible to get until Trump opens and become transparent; and we all know he will never opt for transparency.
But we do know there are MANY, MANY small businesses who have been cheated by Trump.
In addition, to the MANY, MANY customers who were scammed by Trump.
Dude, these are NOT employees. They are contractors who did their jobs and was shafted by Trump.
Semantics. If they are hired to do a job, they are essentially employees. And the question stands - what's the average number of disgruntled people that deal with companies the same size as Trump's?
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Using % is a very poor way to gauge this because there are big corporations who have the means to fight Trump, and Trump knows better than to pull a fast one on those boys.
Using percentage is the PERFECT way to gauge this. If a business generating $40k hires 15 people to do work and "only" 4 claim to have been stiffed - is that business's relationship with employees any better than one dealing with 10,000 people with 50 disgruntled?
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Trump also used many businesses with connections to the Mafia, and he knows better than to cheat those people.
So to get a good idea, you'd have to count only those small businesses with no Mob ties. That number is impossible to get until Trump opens and become transparent; and we all know he will never opt for transparency.
But we do know there are MANY, MANY small businesses who have been cheated by Trump.
In addition, to the MANY, MANY customers who were scammed by Trump.
"The Clinton Foundation’s finances are so messy that the nation’s most influential charity watchdog put it on its “watch list” of problematic nonprofits last month."
"The Clinton family’s mega-charity took in more than $140 million in grants and pledges in 2013 but spent just $9 million on direct aid.
The group spent the bulk of its windfall on administration, travel, and salaries and bonuses, with the fattest payouts going to family friends."
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"The Clinton family’s mega-charity took in more than $140 million in grants and pledges in 2013 but spent just $9 million on direct aid.
"The group spent the bulk of its windfall on administration, travel, and salaries and bonuses, with the fattest payouts going to family friends.""
So let's say your story is true on the pianos. 100's of millions of dollars vs 100k.......100's of millions of dollars vs 100k.... You must be beyond outraged by now, ha OP?
Oh my god, address the OP.
And my mother used to have a saying - "if all your friends jumped off a bridge, does that mean you have to jump too?". Surely you've heard that one. Or how about, "two wrongs don't make a right".
Why in every thread do you guys have to make false equivalents to Clinton? We aren't talking about Clinton.
How about you address your candidate on his own merit, for once, end of story.
Semantics. If they are hired to do a job, they are essentially employees. And the question stands - what's the average number of disgruntled people that deal with companies the same size as Trump's?
Employees and contractors are not the same. I don't understand why you're trying to argue this.
As such, the perception of those two classes are different - employees are concern about work environment, co-workers, etc. Contractors usually just worry about getting paid.
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Originally Posted by eddiehaskell
Using percentage is the PERFECT way to gauge this. If a business generating $40k hires 15 people to do work and "only" 4 claim to have been stiffed - is that business's relationship with employees any better than one dealing with 10,000 people with 50 disgruntled?
If for every projects there are a few contractors who didn't get paid, that's an alarming pattern. I suspect you're trying to lump in employees with the contractor to dilute the severity of the crimes committed.
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Cool story.
You believe in lies but reject facts. Classic Trump supporter.
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Employees and contractors are not the same. I don't understand why you're trying to argue this.
I can use "contractors" if you makes you more happy.
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As such, the perception of those two classes are different - employees are concern about work environment, co-workers, etc. Contractors usually just worry about getting paid.
You are deflecting.
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If for every projects there are a few contractors who didn't get paid, that's an alarming pattern. I suspect you're trying to lump in employees with the contractor to dilute the severity of the crimes committed.
Show me your data on the average number of disgruntled contractors doing work for bussiness that are the size of Trump's.
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You believe in lies but reject facts. Classic Trump supporter.
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First-hand account from one of the many small business owners Trump bullied and ripped off. Hillary's no saint, but Trump ain't what he pretends to be either. Both are liars, really.
Of course, conservatives who say they are for small business don't care about this.
How many disgruntled employees does the average multi-billion dollar company have? Put another way, over the last 40 or so years, what percentage of people working for Trump businesses claim to have been stiffed? Are we talking 50% or 1%? If the number is much higher than average it seems like word of mouth would have prevented his businesses from getting much done.
This guy wasn't an employee. It sounds like a subcontractor or a vendor Trump hired in his personal capacity.
Besides, the "Trump Organization" doesn't have many employees anyway. He's admitted to lying about that in his deposition testimony.
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The lawyer played a clip from Larry King’s talk show, in which King asked Trump how many people worked for him. “Twenty-two thousand or so,” Trump said.
“Are all those people on your payroll?” Ceresney asked him.
“No, not directly,” Trump said. He said he was counting employees of other companies that acted as suppliers and subcontractors to his businesses.
- Over 200 mechanic liens placed on his properties.
- Trump was cited for 24 violations of the Fair Labor Standard Act
- For just one of his casinos, Trump accumulated over 250 unpaid contractors totaling almost $70 millions.
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The actions in total paint a portrait of Trump’s sprawling organization frequently failing to pay small businesses and individuals, then sometimes tying them up in court and other negotiations for years. In some cases, the Trump teams financially overpower and outlast much smaller opponents, draining their resources. Some just give up the fight, or settle for less; some have ended up in bankruptcy or out of business altogether.
Dude, these are NOT employees. They are contractors who did their jobs and was shafted by Trump.
Using % is a very poor way to gauge this because there are big corporations who have the means to fight Trump, and Trump knows better than to pull a fast one on those boys.
Trump also used many businesses with connections to the Mafia, and he knows better than to cheat those people.
So to get a good idea, you'd have to count only those small businesses with no Mob ties. That number is impossible to get until Trump opens and become transparent; and we all know he will never opt for transparency.
In addition, to the MANY, MANY customers who were scammed by Trump.
That, my friend, is what we call a pattern.
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But we do know there are MANY, MANY small businesses who have been cheated by Trump.
You don't know that. You know that someone says it happened. For all we know he didn't deliver as promised. I have no doubt that it has happened in Trump's companies. He has probably had tens of thousands of vendors he has done business with.
One thing for sure is you will never find this with Hillary businesses but that is because she has never actually been involved in building anything.
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You must be beyond outraged by now, ha OP?
