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Old 09-30-2016, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Trump already has Florida wrapped up in the early voting.

It's already over in Florida for Hillary.
Early voting isn't until October in Florida.
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Old 09-30-2016, 06:29 PM
 
Location: United States
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the early voted that hasn't started yet?
It's based on Republican voters requesting mail in ballots.

Normally Democrats request more mail in ballots, not this year, Republicans have a decided advantage before the election even begins.
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Old 09-30-2016, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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It's based on Republican voters requesting mail in ballots.

Normally Democrats request more mail in ballots, not this year, Republicans have a decided advantage before the election even begins.
Yeah, I would wait a little while before counting those chickens.

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Florida doesn't start absentee balloting until Tuesday, but already a record 2.5 million voters have requested ballots. Republicans are ahead in ballot requests, 43 percent to 38 percent.

That's a much narrower gap than in 2008, the most recent in which comparable data was available. At that time, the Republicans held a solid lead in requests, 51 percent to 32 percent, according to data analyzed for the AP by Catalist, a Democratic firm that helped run data operations for Obama's 2008 race. Obama won the state by 2.8 percentage points.
Voting early: Record number of Florida voters request absentee ballots - News - Daytona Beach News-Journal Online - Daytona Beach, FL
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Old 09-30-2016, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Near Falls Lake
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Seriously, nobody should be hanging their hat on polls at this point in time! There is a lot more to play out on both sides!
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Old 09-30-2016, 06:40 PM
 
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OK, you don't like that the report was from yahoo... so, here:

Sept 30 - Florida, Clinton +4, Nevada Clinton +6

And, even the Fox News poll - Clinton +3 or +5

OH, ouchies! and the Fox polls on other things:

Obama +52 favorable

Congress - Democrats more popular than republicans and... only 18% approval.

Hey, I have an idea... think about tossing your congress critter out on his ear this time.

RealClearPolitics - 2016 Latest Polls
and what is the margin of error in those polls, four points? that means they are tight races right now, so how about we wait until election day to see what really happens.
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Old 09-30-2016, 06:42 PM
 
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It's based on Republican voters requesting mail in ballots.

Normally Democrats request more mail in ballots, not this year, Republicans have a decided advantage before the election even begins.
Well, not really... if you are looking at the total number of absentee ballots requested, republican ballots are outnumbered by the combination of all other ballots - democrat, independent, etc - so, I would say, if the ballots are returned with the votes actually done by party, trump could well lose. Lots of independents in Florida, and no way of knowing who they will vote for. Lots of nominal republicans and democrats in Florida and no way of knowing who they will vote for, either. And, a large segment of the population will either vote in person during early voting, or vote in person on election day.

You are counting your chickens before they're hatched, with no proof that you are right. Kinda like the argument that the moon chases the sun because it come up after the sun goes down.
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Old 09-30-2016, 06:44 PM
 
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and what is the margin of error in those polls, four points? that means they are tight races right now, so how about we wait until election day to see what really happens.
I agree with you. But, it is really really hard to resist pulling the chains on trump followers who are all happy when the polls show their guy ahead, and all the polls are rigged when he is behind. I know, a petty little enjoyment, but this election is all about pettiness.
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Old 09-30-2016, 07:03 PM
 
Location: United States
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Well, not really... if you are looking at the total number of absentee ballots requested, republican ballots are outnumbered by the combination of all other ballots - democrat, independent, etc - so, I would say, if the ballots are returned with the votes actually done by party, trump could well lose. Lots of independents in Florida, and no way of knowing who they will vote for. Lots of nominal republicans and democrats in Florida and no way of knowing who they will vote for, either. And, a large segment of the population will either vote in person during early voting, or vote in person on election day.

You are counting your chickens before they're hatched, with no proof that you are right. Kinda like the argument that the moon chases the sun because it come up after the sun goes down.
I bet Trump wins Florida.

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but I bet I won't be.
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Old 09-30-2016, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Yahoo? Really? The only place email is less secure than Hillarys basement.
It is probably not worth explaining, but Yahoo didn't write the article.
AFP, a international news organization wrote it.

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Coral Springs (United States) (AFP) - Hillary Clinton embarked on a lightning swing through Florida on Friday, trying to strengthen a newly minted lead in the pivotal swing state and capitalize on a spasm of setbacks for her presidential opponent Donald Trump.
AFP is one of the largest news organizations in the world
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Old 09-30-2016, 08:38 PM
 
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and what is the margin of error in those polls, four points? that means they are tight races right now, so how about we wait until election day to see what really happens.





rcp has an avg Fl HRC +1.2%, and their overall averages tend to be accurate, so lets wait until election day, and in all likelihood, the rcp avg should be fairly close.
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