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It is the right of citizens to vote, yet we show no proof of citizenship
It is the right of the people to keep & bear arms, but we have to show an ID and jump through hoops, to prove citizenship, when citizenship isn't even a requirement.
Isn't that backwards?
You're not proving citizenship when you submit to a background check when purchasing a gun. You're proving that you're not a felon or disqualified for some other reason. And you can always purchase a gun at a gun show.
First of all its less than clear that the fraud that does exist would be solved by IDs.
Why don't the states that insist on strict IDs provide the IDs at the time the voter registers? If they don't do this then clearly they are more concerned with voter suppression than voter fraud.
Why do we need ID's for getting a gun? If fraud can't be eliminated than why not give everyone a gun with no ID and just by sending in a paper stating you want to get it in the mail!
You're not proving citizenship when you submit to a background check when purchasing a gun. You're proving that you're not a felon or disqualified for some other reason. And you can always purchase a gun at a gun show.
But you need a gun permit to buy a gun and getting a gun permit is based on being a permanent resident or not or being a citizen!
While I understand "voter fraud" is the usual thing trotted out, but is there actually any documented cases of this taking place? By documented I mean investigations and arrests, not your usual gang of internet boards.
Secondly if voter fraud is so rampant, and the Dems are so effective, why are they doing such a **** job? They lost both the House and the Senate and so many Governor's mansions? If you're going to undermine democracy totally, why wouldn't you actually take the places that matter?
Yes, but considering your praise for Hitler's "early successes" in the other thread*... you are probably all for certain groups of Americans having to wear identifying letters sewn on their clothing.
In Florida during Storms or Hurricanes, home owners need to show a valid photo ID to obtain a free sand bag.
Since Democrats are so adamant that voter fraud doesn't exist or not on a large scale than what is the issue with mandatory ID's to be shown.
Provide different ID's for people with low income so everyone can have an ID. If you are homeless you can't vote as you need an address where mail is received to prove who you are unless a homeless person has prove of a birth certificate and who they are.
Anyone against it is in favor of fraud!
There is NO better case for voter fraud than the gerrymandering that Repubican are SO fond of.
Also, elections are state-run so blame the REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS of that state.
Why do we need ID's for getting a gun? If fraud can't be eliminated than why not give everyone a gun with no ID and just by sending in a paper stating you want to get it in the mail!
Trying to deflect your own thread?
My position is that if the State is going to require a particular ID to vote then the State should provide the ID at the time the voter is registered. If they don't then its clear they are not really interested in voter fraud.
I don't understand why anyone thinks people who aren't allowed to vote will commit a federal crime to do so. People who are allowed to vote don't even do it. It's not like you win a prize. Voter turnout is abysmal, and you think people are risking jail time to do it? People won't even risk nothing to do it..
Thank you. If every person I know that whined about how bad things are in my small town, actually got off their butts and voted - they could do something about it.
But no, they don't even know when voting time comes around. They even make it easy by having early voting, but getting to the DQ or Wal-Mart is more important.
Then there are the Trump supporters. What weird scary scenarios they come up with in my local area. And the thing is, Texas will go for him, so I feel like telling them to save their money and not to buy any signs, but no. To them it is all about guns and abortion.
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