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Old 10-23-2016, 04:53 AM
 
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That he's campaigning and doing a rally in southwest Florida which is already a Republican stronghold.
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Old 10-23-2016, 05:00 AM
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It's about optics nor actually changing minds. I wonder if we're going to read articles six months from now how rallies have been now thoroughly discredited as a means of fostering a campaign. If all you're doing is preaching to the choir, and your rallies aren't about convincing the people there to think beyond themselves and devote their time and energy to working for the campaign, how are you expanding your base?
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Old 10-23-2016, 05:02 AM
 
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He has to win FL. Might as well focus on strengthening areas of FL where he's solid. Guess the Miami Dade area is being conceded, but the rest of FL needs attention. He's headed to my city next week.......needless to say, I'm not going.
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Old 10-23-2016, 05:07 AM
 
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It's about optics nor actually changing minds. I wonder if we're going to read articles six months from now how rallies have been now thoroughly discredited as a means of fostering a campaign. If all you're doing is preaching to the choir, and your rallies aren't about convincing the people there to think beyond themselves and devote their time and energy to working for the campaign, how are you expanding your base?
Most people going to his rallies are already voting for him, so it's really just a chance for him to say something stupid and get on the news.
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Old 10-23-2016, 05:17 AM
 
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It's about optics nor actually changing minds. I wonder if we're going to read articles six months from now how rallies have been now thoroughly discredited as a means of fostering a campaign. If all you're doing is preaching to the choir, and your rallies aren't about convincing the people there to think beyond themselves and devote their time and energy to working for the campaign, how are you expanding your base?
Lets say I initially feel I dont like a canidate like SAnders or Trump. You live near the area of a rally. Then tens of thousands of canidate faithful are suddenly in your neighborhood defacto surrogates of their canidate. That might sway your vote against that canidate. If I was to see Trump supporters up close chanting their slogans and acting they way they do up close, might have the unintended consequence of driving Trump support down among swing voters.
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Old 10-23-2016, 05:24 AM
 
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Lets say I initially feel I dont like a canidate like SAnders or Trump. You live near the area of a rally. Then tens of thousands of canidate faithful are suddenly in your neighborhood defacto surrogates of their canidate. That might sway your vote against that canidate. If I was to see Trump supporters up close chanting their slogans and acting they way they do up close, might have the unintended consequence of driving Trump support down among swing voters.
You could have an open mind and attend the rally to see what it's all aboit. I had a liberal friend that went to a Trump rally. He was the only candidate to date that came to our small town.
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Old 10-23-2016, 05:29 AM
 
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That he's campaigning and doing a rally in southwest Florida which is already a Republican stronghold.
You really don't get it, which is fine. Trump is loyal to his supporters and has the energy, unlike Hillary, to actually get out and around to everyone. I suspect we have the "green eyed monster" issue here.

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You could have an open mind and attend the rally to see what it's all aboit. I had a liberal friend that went to a Trump rally. He was the only candidate to date that came to our small town.
While Hillary concentrates on where to get votes (or cash), Trump is concentrating on reaching out to Americans with his message and introducing them to the movement. Trump appreciates those that support him enough to take time to show up to their towns. I think it is great! He also sends a lot of surveys/polls to subscribers of his website asking what we want.

Trump is just being decent and not playing favorites, not really playing a game at all.
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Old 10-23-2016, 05:31 AM
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He has to win FL. Might as well focus on strengthening areas of FL where he's solid.
As opposed to trying to attract votes from folks who are undecided?

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Most people going to his rallies are already voting for him, so it's really just a chance for him to say something stupid and get on the news.
Pretty much. It will be *news* if he can make it through a rally without calling attention to his sexual misconduct himself. Until he can show the mature discipline to do so, his self-defeating attempt at evasion of accountability for what he's said and done is going to be all that comes out of these rallies, so he's not even getting the positive effect of getting on television for free.

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Lets say I initially feel I dont like a canidate like SAnders or Trump. You live near the area of a rally. Then tens of thousands of canidate faithful are suddenly in your neighborhood defacto surrogates of their canidate.
That's just my point: Why not hold rallies where he's likely to generate faithful, instead of effectively taking up the time of the already-faithful that those already-faithful could instead be using to canvass their neighborhood?

Beyond that, even if there was some intention along the lines you're thinking, he's not feeding to these faithful anything close to what they need to sway anyone not already blindly following Trump. He's not providing the answers to the questions that the undecideds are asking (like "How are you going to pay for these nice tax cuts?" and "Why should I believe that you're going to create jobs that the experts say you have no capability to create?)
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Old 10-23-2016, 05:51 AM
 
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You really don't get it, which is fine. Trump is loyal to his supporters and has the energy, unlike Hillary, to actually get out and around to everyone. I suspect we have the "green eyed monster" issue here.



While Hillary concentrates on where to get votes (or cash), Trump is concentrating on reaching out to Americans with his message and introducing them to the movement. Trump appreciates those that support him enough to take time to show up to their towns. I think it is great! He also sends a lot of surveys/polls to subscribers of his website asking what we want.

Trump is just being decent and not playing favorites, not really playing a game at all.
Are you sending him money?
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Old 10-23-2016, 05:53 AM
 
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You really don't get it, which is fine. Trump is loyal to his supporters and has the energy, unlike Hillary, to actually get out and around to everyone. I suspect we have the "green eyed monster" issue here.



While Hillary concentrates on where to get votes (or cash), Trump is concentrating on reaching out to Americans with his message and introducing them to the movement. Trump appreciates those that support him enough to take time to show up to their towns. I think it is great! He also sends a lot of surveys/polls to subscribers of his website asking what we want.

Trump is just being decent and not playing favorites, not really playing a game at all.
Free tickets too! It's like free entertainment.
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