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Any Sanders' supporters voting for Clinton are voting against everything Sanders claimed he was for. And seeing the names linked in this public poll, these people have been Clinton supporters all along.
I'm not voting because I've supported Trump since the primaries.
No, we're not.
Sanders' main message was not trade, although his concern about trade agreements was indeed part of his platform and the major area where he disagreed with Clinton. Sanders is now and always has been philosophically a socialist. He's farther to the left on many issues than Clinton is, but not diametrically opposed to the policies she supports. Which is definitely NOT true of Trump.
I suspect they got on the Sanders bandwagon for the same reason many got on the Trump bandwagon. It had nothing to do with policies, obviously, because except for trade, Sanders and Trump are on opposite ends of the spectrum. It seems there is a group of voters who only care about "sticking it to the establishment." That is their first, last, and everything in between reason for choosing one or the other.
When Sanders was challenging the Democratic party, they supported Sanders, just for that reason. And now those faux Bernie supporters have moved over to Trump, again for that reason. There can be no other explanation, since Sanders despises Trump and everything that he stands for. No real Bernie supporter would switch their support to Trump if they actually believed in what Sanders stands for.
No kidding. Sanders ALWAYS said that Rs must be defeated. And when it started looking like Trump would be the R nominee, he got even more emphatic about it.
Any Sanders "supporter" who didn't hear that message wasn't paying serious attention.
I was a Sanders guy, and I will be voting for HRC. I cannot imagine how a person could have aligned themselves ideologically with Bernie and then vote for Trump. They are miles apart in terms of policy. Bernie is indeed to the left of HRC on many issues, and Trump is to the right of HRC.
To me, a vote for Stein or Johnson are wasted votes. Neither has a chance at winning, and we should use our votes to help select the best possible candidate, where "possible" means actually having a chance.
Because they know Hillary Clinton will spring right back into the arms of wall street and the lobbyists and she cheated Sanders out of a fair primary. Everybody said we were conspiracy theorists. Turns out it wasn't a theory, I haven't seen any Clinton supporters apologize for that.
They're not interested in bending over for her.
Why would an HRC supporter need to apologize for the actions of HRC? Are citizens responsible for every action of the politicians they support? That surely can't be correct.
It had nothing to do with policies, obviously, because except for trade, Sanders and Trump are on opposite ends of the spectrum. It seems there is a group of voters who only care about "sticking it to the establishment." That is their first, last, and everything in between reason for choosing one or the other.
This is spot-on.
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Originally Posted by Cheesesteak Cravings
It makes perfect sense. People were drawn to Bernie because he was fundamentally at odds with Clinton in his record and his rhetoric, all the way up until he endorsed her. That was a betrayal. Only the loyal democrats were quick to switch to Hillary when Sanders conceded, which really shows they were more interested in supporting the party than any of the ideals Sanders touted.
Clinton played millions of people. They're all trying to save face by blaming it on the russians and trying to scare everybody with boogeyman Trump.
He is more fundamentally at odds with Trump in terms of policy than he ever was with Clinton. The ideas I support as a voter are the policies proposed by a candidate. Sanders' policy proposals are much closer to HRC's than Trump's.
People need to stop analyzing candidates like fourth graders would. Rhetoric and image aren't what matter. What matters is policy proposals, and there is no denying that Sanders is closer to HRC than to Trump.
ROTFL at the poll results...half the people voting for Trump are die hard Trump supporters to begin with. what a joke
I noticed that, too. I won't call out any poster specifically because that would probably be against the TOS, but there are more than a few claiming they switched from Sanders to Trump who have been Trump shills here on C-D for over a year.
He is more fundamentally at odds with Trump in terms of policy than he ever was with Clinton. The ideas I support as a voter are the policies proposed by a candidate. Sanders' policy proposals are much closer to HRC's than Trump's.
People need to stop analyzing candidates like fourth graders would. Rhetoric and image aren't what matter. What matters is policy proposals, and there is no denying that Sanders is closer to HRC than to Trump.
Intelligent Sanders supporters know that they won't get anything Sander's proposes under a Clinton presidency or a Trump presidency. Clinton and the DNC played Sanders and his supporters, he was not going to be allowed to be the nominee and they gave him no meaningful concessions on the platform, for whatever that is worth anyway.
They were cheated. Would you cheer on a team after it was proven they cheated you out of a fair game? Of course not. To hell with them. I say elect Trump and then impeach him ASAP.
Intelligent Sanders supporters know that they won't get anything Sander's proposes under a Clinton presidency or a Trump presidency. Clinton and the DNC played Sanders and his supporters, he was not going to be allowed to be the nominee and they gave him no meaningful concessions on the platform, for whatever that is worth anyway.
They were cheated. Would you cheer on a team after it was proven they cheated you out of a fair game? Of course not. To hell with them. I say elect Trump and then impeach him ASAP.
Many of HRC's policy proposals are much more like Sanders' proposals than Trump's. For instance, HRC doesn't think global warming is a hoax, and she has an energy plan to reduce our reliance on fossil fuels. That is one example of how HRC's proposals are more similar to Sanders' proposals than Trump's.
The analogy of a team is a bad one. What matters here is policy, not hurt feelings or even legitimate points about Hillary's shadiness. Electing a President with whom you disagree completely as a way to get revenge on a candidate you agree with a fair amount is a bad idea.
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