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Do tell us how paper ballots were hacked in Michigan and how electronic voting machines not connected to the internet were altered by Russian hackers supposedly loyal to Trump.
I love logical fallacies such as legalsea has presented. He has enabled himself to piece together loosely connected issues tossed around throughout the election, while conveniently omitting other variables to disguise his/her rationalizing.
The one important factor in all of this is that that the poster purposely left out is that just about every election statistician, expert and scholar who has combed over the results for the past 3 weeks has found absolutely no strange anomalies or evidence of any tampering of the election results thus far. NONE, ZERO, ZILTCH. The BOE has also supported this. Even the University of Michigan computer scientist is back tracking.
All they have it the chanting of "buh buh...the Russians!!!...
makes good for good political theater, but it unnecessarily stokes people's fears and confidence in the election process IMO.
Personally from where I sit, just as someone mentioned in another thread, if you can claim election tampering without any credible of sufficient evidence whatsoever....what's to stop any recount in any election whether past, future or present?
And let's just say for the sake of argument...there is an anomaly or some sort of faulty count?
How do we know that wasn't tampered with after 3 weeks? Who's to say that Hillary supporters have not tampered with those results? This could just go around and around with no real satisfying conclusion.
Just about anyone on either side of the isle has said that it is 'highly' unlikely that any of the results will change at all. Obama issued an official statement telling them to GIVE IT UP ALREADY...YOU LOST...IT'S TIME TO MOVE ON."
Do tell us how paper ballots were hacked in Michigan and how electronic voting machines not connected to the internet were altered by Russian hackers supposedly loyal to Trump.
That was not an argument I made. I will also note that the recount effort is in Wisconsin.
Here's the trick. The recount in WI begins now (10 electoral votes) Michigan (16 electoral votes)
They need PA (20 electoral votes) to bring Trump under 270. The first two are close enough
to be manipulated easily. However Trump won PA by over 70 thousand votes. If that is overturned,
it would be very suspicious and a tall order for Dems to achieve.
They can start the recounts then the lawyers can delay the counts causing the electors to not be allowed to vote
on the 19th of December. Then HRC and Trump would be disqualified. What then, folks.
Nothing because it will never get that far.
In 2000 Bush was up in Florida by 1784 votes the day after the election. A full recount of Florida still didn't put Gore ahead. It only cut into the lead down to 362. 2000 Post-Election Timeline of Events
Even with 5000 votes recently removed from the total Trump he is still up in WI by some 22,000. It's highly unlikely a recount will move that many votes. The number is just too big.
You can't seriously think a Trumpist would read a newspaper.
I hear "the media" is totally untrustworthy because "they were wrong about the election" so only selected sources (and the others, too when it's convenient) are safe to view.
It's only true if it confirms their preconceptions, or if Trump tweets it.
Reading comments from Trump loyalists around here I am starting to believe this is the case...
I love logical fallacies such as legalsea has presented. He has enabled himself to piece together loosely connected issues tossed around throughout the election, while conveniently omitting other variables to disguise his/her rationalizing.
The one important factor in all of this is that that the poster purposely left out is that just about every election statistician, expert and scholar who has combed over the results for the past 3 weeks has found absolutely no strange anomalies or evidence of any tampering of the election results thus far. NONE, ZERO, ZILTCH. The BOE has also supported this. Even the University of Michigan computer scientist is back tracking.
All they have it the chanting of "buh buh...the Russians!!!...
makes good for good political theater, but it unnecessarily stokes people's fears and confidence in the election process IMO.
Personally from where I sit, just as someone mentioned in another thread, if you can claim election tampering without any credible of sufficient evidence whatsoever....what's to stop any recount in any election whether past, future or present?
And let's just say for the sake of argument...there is an anomaly or some sort of faulty count?
How do we know that wasn't tampered with after 3 weeks? Who's to say that Hillary supporters have not tampered with those results? This could just go around and around with no real satisfying conclusion.
Just about anyone on either side of the isle has said that it is 'highly' unlikely that any of the results will change at all. Obama issued an official statement telling them to GIVE IT UP ALREADY...YOU LOST...IT'S TIME TO MOVE ON."
This is all just one big distraction.
Pissing off Trump/the Rep party and likely making them more determined than even come next year.
In 2000 Bush was up in Florida by 1784 votes the day after the election. A full recount of Florida still didn't put Gore ahead. It only cut into the lead down to 362. 2000 Post-Election Timeline of Events
Even with 5000 votes recently removed from the total Trump he is still up in WI by some 22,000. It's highly unlikely a recount will move that many votes. The number is just too big.
And in Pennsylvania Trump won by almost 70,000.
Trump is the next president.
The strategy is to not finish the recount before 12/13/16 which would prevent
the 10 WI electors from attending the electoral college vote on the 19th. Thus, Trump would
lose 10 electoral votes. Same for MI & PA which then drops him below the magic number of 270.
Don't think that they didn't plot this out at the Soros meeting after the election.....
Saying that you may not accept the results of the election before the votes are cast?
Or.
Saying you will accept the results. Then chastise the person who said he wouldn't. And THEN, not accept the results yourself?
So now, is Hillary all of those horrible things she said about Trump when he said he might not accept the results of the election? I don't know if she is, but one thing I do know that is is, is a hypocrite.
#1 They won't recount close Hillary victories like New Hampshire, Minnesota and Nevada.
#2 They are refusing an audit to look for illegal voters.
#3 They have no evidence of fraud and were duped by false claims that there was a disparity between paper and electronic ballots.
If Hillary truly wanted to ensure a fair election as you falsely imply, she would have advocated for #1 and #2. And then apologized to Trump for blasting him on saying the election could be rigged, but then hypocritically imply that it was without evidence as Hillary has done.
They will recount those States if a candidate requests it in a timely manner. AL Trump has to do is make the request
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threads/day. This gives Kinaiken the early Sunday lead.