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Indeed! When will the left learn that President Trump isn't going anywhere? And his legacy will be felt long after his 8 years in office is up, primarily via the Supreme Court and other federal courts!
They are incapable of learning. Heck they did not know of the EC after almost 2 centuries of use.
The following list of statistics has been making the rounds on the Internet and it should finally put an end to the argument as to why the Electoral College makes sense.
There are 3,141 counties in the United States.
Trump won 3,084 of them.
Clinton won 57.
There are 62 counties in New York State.
Trump won 46 of them.
Clinton won 16.
Clinton won the popular vote by approx. 1.5 million votes.
In the 5 counties that encompass NYC, (Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan, Richmond & Queens) Clinton received well over 2 million more votes than Trump. (Clinton only won 4 of these counties; Trump won Richmond)
Therefore these 5 counties alone, more than accounted for Clinton winning the popular vote of the entire country.
These 5 counties comprise 319 square miles.
The United States is comprised of 3, 797,000 square miles.
When you have a country that encompasses almost 4 million square miles of territory, it would be ludicrous to even suggest that the vote of those who inhabit a mere 319 square miles should dictate the outcome of a national election. Large, densely populated Democrat cities (NYC, Chicago, LA, etc) don’t and shouldn’t speak for the rest of our country.
When the facts are presented like that, it makes "popular vote" liberals look that much sillier.
Another reality is this. Your guy lost by nearly 3 million votes ...
It's completely different race if every votes counts. How many more Conservatives come out to vote in California if their vote counts? Is Trump's campaign stops in key areas or where the votes are in dense urban areas? It's not some coincidence his second to last stop the day before the election was in my area that was crucial for his win in PA. He wasn't in NYC or LA, he was where it counted.
It's not some coincidence his second to last stop the day before the election was in my area that was crucial for his win in PA. He wasn't in NYC or LA, he was where it counted.
Conway, properly, forbade national polls, reminding all it was 51 individual POTUS elections. Not dependent on each other at all. Trump won 31, totaling 304 of what mattered..electoral votes.
Here’s what all this means concretely, applied just one election ahead. If we assume that the support patterns from 2016, with their astronomically high white-working class support rates for Trump and relatively weak minority support rates for the Democratic candidate, hold in 2020, projected demographic shifts in the electorate would still, by themselves, produce a very different outcome.
The Democrats’ advantage in the national popular vote would bump up from a little more than 1 point to 3 points. Critically, this change would flip the Rust Belt trio of Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin — plus Florida — back to the Democrats, producing a 303-235 victory for the Democratic candidate, even with the white working-class surge toward Trump replicated in 2020. In addition, Arizona, Georgia, and North Carolina, already very competitive in the 2016 election, would become even more contestable under this scenario
.And this is just one election ahead. Naturally, the effects of demographic change will be magnified the further away we get from 2016.
Therefore, all else equal, Trump or another Republican candidate will have to continue to increase white working-class margins or white working-class turnout (or both) to be successful in future cycles. But that will be a difficult task, to say the least, given just how high support from that population was for Trump in 2016.
When you're depending on groups of the electorate that are falling as a share of total votes cast, as the GOP is currently overly dependent on white blue collar (primarily white non-college/white evangelical), simply repeating the same turnout and winning margin from the previous election isn't enough to win in the next election. Because the percentage of votes cast by those groups are falling, you either have to expand your coalition to other groups, or continue to win larger and larger shares of your diminishing core groups until you reach the point where winning is statistically impossible.
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Laughing as no ones predictions days before November were even marginally accurate, and you still have faith in 4 years forward projections.
I have faith in basic math, Bobby.
This isn't a prediction. If the Trump coalition doesn't expand to other groups, only higher and higher margins in those fading groups make up for demographic change, even in your Rust Belt. Those are the sad facts if you are overly dependent on voting blocs that are literally dying.
Basic Math failed 8 months ago. The problem is you, like the columns you favor, view demographic change as a collective. We run 51 distinct elections.
Add in, every census 5-10 votes shift from blue to red states. Did not see that mentioned.
This DNC preoccupation with demographics is for a simple reason: Their hatred of the wwc makes it impossible for them to make amends with them. But while long-term trends may help them, like 2016, it will often come up short. Who was sworn in as 45th POTUS, Burry?
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