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Old 11-04-2018, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Nantahala National Forest, NC
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You give your power to someone else! Your choices go unaccounted...

Only approximately half of American citizens are expected to vote in the midterm elections...
what about you?

Vote Tuesday, November 6
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Old 11-04-2018, 08:17 AM
 
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Everyone should vote if they are legally allowed to vote. The internet makes it easy to research issues/candidates which support your point of view. Do your research if you are unsure.
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Old 11-04-2018, 09:10 AM
 
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You give your power to someone else! Your choices go unaccounted...

Only approximately half of American citizens are expected to vote in the midterm elections...
what about you?

Vote Tuesday, November 6
Actually, that's ridiculous. You're not giving your power to someone else if you don't like the main candidates in the race. Nor do I believe anyone that is uninformed should vote (but that happens all the time). If you're going to vote, you should do your due diligence and take the time to understand what each candidate represents. And I would be very wary of comments that only attempt to smear and character assassinate as opposed to constructively explaining the benefits of a candidate (i.e. the majority of the comments on this forum).

P.S. OP, Feel free to ignore this post and keep your fingers in your ears (similar to how people vote for party and not issues).

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Old 11-04-2018, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Nantahala National Forest, NC
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Everyone should vote if they are legally allowed to vote. The internet makes it easy to research issues/candidates which support your point of view. Do your research if you are unsure.

Exactly. Internet makes doing due diligence easy now. Sample ballots are easily available.

If you don't vote, you allow someone else to direct the future of our country.
Use your voice....no matter what some say, your vote does make a difference.
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Old 11-04-2018, 12:37 PM
 
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Definitely, not voting is voting by default for anyone!
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Old 11-04-2018, 03:45 PM
 
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Definitely, not voting is voting by default for anyone!
Which makes absolutely no sense. If you don't care for either candidate (and that dislike is equal...and I can think of plenty of situations like that in my lifetime), not voting make absolutely no difference. I know plenty of people that opted for that in the last Presidential election (hating both Clinton and Trump). And please don't waste my time saying to vote for someone else that has zero chance of winning. I'm always amazed at the ridiculous reasoning people use in regards to voting.
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Old 11-04-2018, 04:01 PM
 
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Which makes absolutely no sense. If you don't care for either candidate (and that dislike is equal...and I can think of plenty of situations like that in my lifetime), not voting make absolutely no difference. I know plenty of people that opted for that in the last Presidential election (hating both Clinton and Trump). And please don't waste my time saying to vote for someone else that has zero chance of winning. I'm always amazed at the ridiculous reasoning people use in regards to voting.
Speaking of fingers in one's ears.
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Old 11-04-2018, 04:04 PM
 
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Speaking of fingers in one's ears.
Uh huh, nice deflection. I guess if the shoe fits since you're a classic example of someone that merely uses character assassination and smear jobs (as evidence by your previous posts, not to mention fabricating information and then ignoring rebuttals that prove you wrong). No finger in these ears. I'm just not going to waste my time with someone that lies.

For those not aware of your many posts (why do you insist on being dishonest?)...

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If using eminent domain to take away property for personal use is a bad thing, then you did not vote for GWB because he was given part of a baseball team in oder for the owners to get land for the stadium. Including an old woman's house for the parking lot? How about voting against Trump for also using eminent domain for his casino parking lot? How about that Canadian pipeline that took farmland in Liberty County for sludge going to a refinery and then on to China. The USA got no benefit from the oil.How about all that land taken for the shut down super collider? When it failed, they couldn't give the ruined land away.


How about what that pipeline and others like it did to the NA. And you think Republicans will not use any tool in the box to get what they want? LOL


That's an Impressive List (although not accurate) of WhatAbout'isms.

As a General Rule - the WHAT ABOUT!!! tends to show "darn, I can't refute what you posted" - so WhatAbout!
You don't actually know much about sports teams, sports complexes and how they are both built and funded or about pipeline infrastructure or power line infrastructure

On the UP side -- I do! Short answer to all your WhatAbout!!! is "public good" vs Private Gain.
Sports complexes (which Mr Bush did not own) and parking lots/pipelines are infrastruction and public good. Beto's and his Daddy-in-Law Billionaire were going to wipe out a Historic Neighborhood for Private Gain. There is a big difference in those things for Normal People.

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Why should I be compelled to pay 6000 a year in school taxes to support a religious school I do not agree with?

We already have charter schools in churches run on tax money.

There are no teacher's unions in Texas.


Why do people believe this "no unions in Texas"??
That's not my question -- that is the question of the AFT

No, unions are not ‘illegal’ in Texas And yes, we’re a union |Texas AFT - a Union of Professionals

Invariably, someone responds to one of my Facebook posts — where I oft use the word “union” to describe Texas AFT — with a vehement objection. “There are no unions in Texas!” or “Unions are illegal in Texas!” Or they often have the qualifier of “teacher,” as in “Teacher unions aren’t allowed in Texas.”

Some of these objections are just based on not understanding the laws of Texas. Yes, unions are legal here in the Lone Star State, and we have plenty of them in the private sector, and many bargain collectively for employment contracts. Yes, it’s also true that Texas is a “right-to-work” state, meaning it is illegal to make union membership compulsory for employment.

We are the only organization representing school employees that actively is seeking the right to collective bargaining in Texas for our members and other public employee unions.

So what are the other teacher unions in Texas? Just one other group holds the traits outlined above — the Texas State Teachers Association, which is affiliated with the National Education Association. And it embraces the union label. (Although not quite as much as Texas AFT!) In fact, we have three “merged unions” with TSTA, meaning these three local unions are affiliated with both of Texas AFT/AFT and TSTA/NEA: Education Austin, The San Antonio Alliance, and Education Round Rock.

Now we can move on to the "Why should I be compelled to pay 6000 a year in school taxes"

That's some pretty serious hyperbole on the amount of local taxes you pay just for school districts It might well be possible IF you have a Mansion in River Oaks or in Highland Park - but it doesn't matter if you pay $10,000 in local school taxes because not a single penny of it goes to ANY Charter School

Charter Schools DO NOT receive ANY Local School Tax funding .... how about that!

Charter schools receive state funds based on the average daily attendance of students (same as traditional public schools). However, they do not receive funds from local tax revenue and the majority, including Texas charters, do not receive state facilities funding. A recent independent analysis of revenue differences between charter school districts and independent school districts reveals a persistent funding gap exists. Texas Charter Schools Association

I know you will find this shocking -- but NO - Texas Charters are not allowed a Religious Affiliation - NO Church Charter Schools, that you don't pay for anyway. That happens to be Texas Law.

The types of entities eligible to hold a Texas open-enrollment charter are as follows:

Institutions of higher education;
Private or independent institutions of higher education;
Tax-exempt organizations classified as 501(c)(3)’s under the Internal Revenue Code; and
Governmental entities.
Churches and other faith-based organizations are not eligible to apply for a charter.

So -- a reasonable person might want to know HOW are Charter Schools in Texas funded if they can't charge Tuition and are not eligible for Local School Taxes. Part of the money comes from Private Grants and from Federal Grants -- but the biggest portion is the same as the biggest portion for all the School Districts in Texas ..... Texas has a Permanent School Fund - the largest in the USA. The Law for this Permanent School Fund was passed in 1867 and it covers Local School Districts AND the Texas State Universities and Colleges.

The Money comes from the very thing that Leftists hate the most ...... OIL/GAS It's a LOT of money.
Large Urban areas are able to collect substantial School Taxes - that is not the case with the majority of Texas small towns and rural areas .... people may have notices -- lot's of rural area in Texas.

Texas did not give all its Land to the Federal Government when we joined the Union (either time) - There is a LOT of public and State owned Land in Texas and there is OIL/GAS on most of it.

Not to mention that Texas also kept 10.34 Off-Shore Miles in the Gulf of Mexico (most, if not all States only have 5 miles) .... the Gulf of Mexico is a HUGE Oil/Gas Reserve. We get Royalties, Leases, Fees and it's in the Billions. It goes to the Permanent Texas School Fund.

Newbys to Texas might find all that interesting. Texas also has it's own Power Grid that is not connected to the rest of the USA (except some one way connections to sell power) - We Control that Grid.

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Old 11-04-2018, 04:19 PM
 
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Really trite.

Dumb people who have no idea what is going on should not vote. They can only make a poor choice.

If you are one of these losers who you has no idea who your congressperson is but knows the seeding of every baseball team that made the playoffs, or what happened to every major contestant of the Voice, stay home on Tuesday. Leave governance to the adults in the room. You would be much happier not having to worry about dreary elections and their consequences, and you would avoid making a bad choice that will ultimately hurt you.

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Old 11-04-2018, 04:23 PM
 
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Really trite.

Dumb people who have no idea what is going on should not vote. They can only make a a poor choice.

If you are one of these losers who you has no idea who your congressperson is but knows the seeding of every baseball team that made the playoffs, or what happened to every major contestant of the Voice, stay home on Tuesday. Leave governance to the adults in the room. You would be much happier not having to worry about dreary elections and their consequences, and you would avoid making a bad choice that will ultimately hurt you.
Thank You! Glad to see there's a voice of reason out there.
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