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Old 04-28-2019, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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Originally Posted by Bureaucat
Telling white non-college voters that “the other” is out to get them.

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Originally Posted by travis t
Where did Trump say "the other?" Do you have a link for that quotation?

Why did Trump date a black model before meeting Melania? Why did he send Baron to a 40% non-white school? Why did he select a black HUD head, an Indian UN ambassador, and a Jewish Tres. Sec? What kind of politico trying to appeal to white racists does such things? It's absurd.
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No other politician has approached Trump in the divisive use of language. He purposely divides the country into “us” versus them. He’s not necessarily personally a racist, but he uses divisive language that appeals to white racists. He’s most assuredly not a Christian Conservative, but he uses language that appeals to people who feel that their way of life is under threat.

All of Trump’s political theater appeals to a certain segment of older, white conservative that fears the future. It’s the opposite side of the street, but it’s still most definite “identity politics”.

Trump is a skillful demagogue who tells his customers what they want to hear.
You posted a quote. I asked for a citation, which is absent from your reply to my question.

Was it a made-up quotation? LOL if you are making up quotations, then accusing Trump of being a 'demagogue.' Do you see the irony there?
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Old 04-28-2019, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Tyler, Texas
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Biden ruined his chances by turning his touching people unwanted into a joke. Most people are rightly creeped out by his behavior. There are videos of him grabbing people's breasts, grabbing a baby's crotch, and leaning up to kids and sniffing them and making moaning faces with his face. His behavior is totally bizarre and inappropriate. He shouldn't be running at all.
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Old 04-28-2019, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Tyler, Texas
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No other politician has approached Trump in the divisive use of language. He purposely divides the country into “us” versus them. He’s not necessarily personally a racist, but he uses divisive language that appeals to white racists. He’s most assuredly not a Christian Conservative, but he uses language that appeals to people who feel that their way of life is under threat.

All of Trump’s political theater appeals to a certain segment of older, white conservative that fears the future. It’s the opposite side of the street, but it’s still most definite “identity politics”.

Trump is a skillful demagogue who tells his customers what they want to hear.
"White people" "fear the future" but AOC believes the world is literally going to end in 12 years and Democrats are running on reducing carbon emissions to zero by 2030, thereby taking us back to horsewhip and buggy days.

Who is afraid of the future again?

And your comment is racist.
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Old 04-28-2019, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Tyler, Texas
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Fair point. But yes, I did specifically say 'at campaigning.' It is not often remembered that Obama was very innovative in use of analytics. He had a little-noted team of academics working with him in 2008. He dumbfounded Bill Clinton, widely considered an election guru in the party in 2008. Obama nearly doubled the turnout in Iowa, which became his launch-pad to the nomination.

I think it was the book Game Change where Bill Clinton was watching the Iowa numbers come in, and thought for sure that they must be wrong.
He didn't dumbfound Bill Clinton. It's just that Hillary is an unlikable, bitter, angry old hag who almost nobody likes. Not even Bernie voters would vote for her in 2016 to save us from Hitler 2.0. That's how much she is hated by fellow Democrats, not to mention Republicans. Bill couldn't win the election for Hillary and God Himself wouldn't have been able to win it. Hillary is a flawed candidate and flawed human being.
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Old 04-29-2019, 12:34 AM
 
Location: A State of Mind
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I should have known that this topic would turn into something not intended to be.

It is supposed to be about something positive, how one hoping to make things more stable is offering and willing to help get the country lean in a more appropriate direction. This is what many want to see, whether it will ultimately be due to him or another.

This is not about previous presidents, those having attempted to become one, or about suggested wrongdoings, it is regarding a message that discusses going forward and creating positive change for all.
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Old 04-29-2019, 12:40 AM
 
Location: Tyler, Texas
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I don't see his message as positive. He attacked Jefferson. He said Truml praised Nazis (which is a lie). His comments were filled with hyperbole, lies and disinformation. There was nothing positive about it. And he's a groper.
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Old 04-29-2019, 06:58 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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I don't see his message as positive. He attacked Jefferson. He said Truml praised Nazis (which is a lie). His comments were filled with hyperbole, lies and disinformation. There was nothing positive about it. And he's a groper.




Q. How many women have accused Biden of inappropriate touching?
A. Seven.


Q. How many women have accused Trump of sexual misconduct or assault?
A. Twenty three.
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Old 04-29-2019, 10:08 AM
 
Location: NJ
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JB looks as if he may have had a stroke.


His face is expressionless and appears doddering. His responses are simplistic, laconic, monotone. Of course he would make a fine puppet for someone behind the scenes.


Biden is nice guy but not presidential or even senatorial material.


Biden is more of a concept that an actual candidate.
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Old 04-29-2019, 10:21 AM
 
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You posted a quote. I asked for a citation, which is absent from your reply to my question.

Was it a made-up quotation? LOL if you are making up quotations, then accusing Trump of being a 'demagogue.' Do you see the irony there?
No.

“The other” just refers to the various boogiemen that Trump uses to stoke anxiety.
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Old 04-29-2019, 10:23 AM
 
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"White people" "fear the future" but AOC believes the world is literally going to end in 12 years and Democrats are running on reducing carbon emissions to zero by 2030, thereby taking us back to horsewhip and buggy days.

Who is afraid of the future again?

And your comment is racist.
Not racist at all. I’m a 70 year old white guy. Trump purposely stokes the fears of older, white, Americans who are upset over demographic and societal change for political purposes.
It’s a short-term strategy that will probably damage his Party’s brand long after he’s dead, but it helped get him elected and could do it again, but at great cost to the country.
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