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Old 06-02-2008, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Which Republican's? I'd say his record of voting with his party 96.4% of the time is telling enough. Here is a good example of Obama's ethics and "change." Obama played hardball in first Chicago campaign - CNN.com

And of those Bills (just the 96.4%) how many or what percentage if you prefer were Bi-Partisan efforts?

See this is a much more true measure of working together.

I've seen that article, and read multiple accounts of the hardball he played - your objection? Was it illegal? Unethical? Perhaps an error future politicians won't make?
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Old 06-02-2008, 11:31 AM
 
Location: 44.9800° N, 93.2636° W
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I think Obama stayed home because he couldn't find Iraq on a map.

"I've now been to 57 states." -- Obama this month in Oregon.
Its strange that this gaffe even showed up on your radar when we've had a president (whom you most likely voted for) who managed to fill a few 365-day calendars with mind blowingly dumb quotes.
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Old 06-02-2008, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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And of those Bills (just the 96.4%) how many or what percentage if you prefer were Bi-Partisan efforts?

See this is a much more true measure of working together.

I've seen that article, and read multiple accounts of the hardball he played - your objection? Was it illegal? Unethical? Perhaps an error future politicians won't make?

Don't have that data, but does it matter? Even Ted Kennedy and Barbara Boxer have a lower percentage of voting with the party. That tells me he is a party hack that has no interest in anything but a liberal agenda.

That article tells me that he can play the political games with the best of them and that his "different kind of politics" is a sham.
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Old 06-03-2008, 08:34 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Its strange that this gaffe even showed up on your radar when we've had a president (whom you most likely voted for) who managed to fill a few 365-day calendars with mind blowingly dumb quotes.
Every one make gaffes but Obama's "I've now been to 57 states" is shocking. Recall how much media attention Quayle's misspelling of potato received? Trivial compared to the idiotic 57 states.
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Old 06-03-2008, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Home is where the heart is
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Its strange that this gaffe even showed up on your radar when we've had a president (whom you most likely voted for) who managed to fill a few 365-day calendars with mind blowingly dumb quotes.
LOL, too funny!
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Old 06-03-2008, 09:58 AM
 
Location: southern california
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DC in denial, they said we were winning the war in Viet Nam for 10 years.
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Old 06-03-2008, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Don't have that data, but does it matter? Even Ted Kennedy and Barbara Boxer have a lower percentage of voting with the party. That tells me he is a party hack that has no interest in anything but a liberal agenda.

That article tells me that he can play the political games with the best of them and that his "different kind of politics" is a sham.
Of course it matters. It shows speaks to the type of support one has garnered from the opposition and the ability to negotiate and compromise. Of great importance is the actual issue as this will be even more telling should he become President.

THOMAS (Library of Congress)
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Old 06-03-2008, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Home is where the heart is
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Of course it matters. It shows speaks to the type of support one has garnered from the opposition and the ability to negotiate and compromise. Of great importance is the actual issue as this will be even more telling should he become President.

THOMAS (Library of Congress)
What a great link! Thanks for posting this.
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Old 08-26-2008, 11:16 AM
 
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Seriously McCain is completely clueless in foreign policy and that incompetence is only exceeded by his lack of domestic policy depth.
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Old 08-27-2008, 04:00 PM
 
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