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Its amazing to me that Democrats say they would support and work for a candidate (McCain)who would end a womans right to choose thru his supreme court appointments, who believes the Bush war is fine and if we are in Iraq for another 100 years that would be just fine, and who has flip flopped and decided that he is now for the tax cuts for only the wealthiest Americans, and who doesnt support veterans benefits...because he doesn't want poor Americans to have any options other than staying in the service.
Democrats like that don't do Hillary any credit. If that is her base......who needs her. It's not about her, it's about America.
As soon as Obama gets the necessary number of delegates, I will be heading to the local GOP headquarters to sign up to volunteer for McCain. I figure, why waste a moment of being on the right side of the GE?! I think we should make ourselves heard, since the DNC has been pooh-poohing the numbers of people who say they won't support Obama.
This confirms my suspicions...
For some time now it's looked to me like much of Hillary's support came from angry women who aren't well-informed politically. They're just going to strongly support any female candidate, regardless of the issues.
Its amazing to me that Democrats say they would support and work for a candidate (McCain)who would end a womans right to choose thru his supreme court appointments, who believes the Bush war is fine and if we are in Iraq for another 100 years that would be just fine, and who has flip flopped and decided that he is now for the tax cuts for only the wealthiest Americans, and who doesnt support veterans benefits...because he doesn't want poor Americans to have any options other than staying in the service.
Democrats like that don't do Hillary any credit. If that is her base......who needs her. It's not about her, it's about America.
Maybe these are not normal Democrats but people who were drawn to Hillary because of gender etc. They are now going back to their normal voting habits which should not be surprising. They are for whatever reason compelled to do it with drama. You know the drama thing and how that goes.
LOL, funny you should say that. Yes I do know about the drama thing. I have a theory about people who shoot off their mouths when it comes to politics. They talk big but it ends up just being a bunch of talk.
Here's normie's rule about human nature: The more dramatic people get, the less likely they are to actually vote. The really histrionic ones don't even bother to register. I don't understand it, but that's what I see year after year.
But I am also a moderate politically. Regardless of my being a Democrat I still have that wonderful freedom to vote my convictions, my beliefs.
I cannot, with a clear conscience vote for Barack Obama because he is far far and away too leftist-socialist for me. I personally feel that is the wrong path for the future of my country.
In voting for John McCain I will be voting for a moderate who will not raise our taxes to fund his liberal agenda. I have lived longer than many of you and I have seen the economic misery caused by liberal presidents. Those of you who are thinking the economic situation is bad now should have been around during the Carter years. People were being laid off right and left, stock market in the toilet, businesses closing, lines to buy gas, people going on welfare . . it was truely economic misery.
You really should read this if this is the way you feel. Ronald Reagan made this speech to endorse Barry Goldwater in 1964. It's a great speech by a man who said,
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" I have spent most of my life as a Democrat. I recently have seen fit to follow another course. I believe that the issues confronting us cross party lines. Now, one side in this campaign has been telling us that the issues of this election are the maintenance of peace and prosperity. The line has been used, "We've never had it so good."
The first election I was ever really aware of and worked in was for Adalai Stevenson; although I wasn't 21 and couldnt vote. I have voted for every Democrat who has run since that time. The reason being that I believe in the principles of the Democratic party. I can get excited about a particular candidate...(Robert Kennedy was my all time favorite) but the party is the most important.
Obama supports the principles that have always characterized my party. I will proudly support him. I am concerned that Sen. Clinton and many of her followers seem to have very little alegiance to the party and to be off on some kind of personality cult slash and burn policy regarding the Democratic Party. That speaks poorly of her ability to lead and says volumes about her supporters.
As soon as Obama gets the necessary number of delegates, I will be heading to the local GOP headquarters to sign up to volunteer for McCain. I figure, why waste a moment of being on the right side of the GE?! I think we should make ourselves heard, since the DNC has been pooh-poohing the numbers of people who say they won't support Obama.
After seeing the public display of the typical Clinton supporter at the Rules Committee, I'd be embarrassed to publicly announce I was a Clinton supporter. Watching and listening to that atrocious display of rude and embittered antics should make everyone feel sorry for the children whose parents are setting this type of example. Perhaps they should all be forced to join a geriatric sports program where the Rules will be enforced, and the lesson of how to lose gracefully can be applied and ingrained before we raise another generation of poor sports and hapless youth.
Realistically by the time the GE rolls around many will have joined the winner, and those who haven't will realize they are a minor footnote in the annals of history. The polls clearly show at most 35% will stay loyal to Clinton and switch to McCain, this number will go down, but it is still offset by the fact that they are far outnumbered by the raw numbers of folks who will vote in the General Election anyway. In the fall who will really count the "bitter Clinton supporters" as a Demographic anymore? If nothing else Ron Paul and Bob Barr will offset them - Join McCain - you've already been accounted for. At the least, you simply fill the void of the conservatives who don't support McCain.
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This confirms my suspicions...
For some time now it's looked to me like much of Hillary's support came from angry women who aren't well-informed politically. They're just going to strongly support any female candidate, regardless of the issues.
I agree with that but the problem is that we are going to need to retain a large number of them to win in November. If we don't, we are doomed. I really do not understand whay they are so mad. Nobody "stole" anything from them. Hillary and Obama entered a race that was won fair and square by him playing by the rules of the Democratic Party. And, I will point out, that Obama had a huge disadvantage when he entered the race. The nomination was almost Hillary's for the taking. I don't know what else we can do except point that out to the women and hope that clearer heads prevail and tempers cool down by November.
The tone of the forum seems to have changed quite a bit, save the few sad obsessive turbo-posters who think he's the messiah - "Obama cures cancer!", "Obama singlehandedly stops mideast violence!", "Obama flies backwards around the world to reverse time so he can stop us from invading Iraq!", etc, etc.
As soon as Obama gets the necessary number of delegates, I will be heading to the local GOP headquarters to sign up to volunteer for McCain. I figure, why waste a moment of being on the right side of the GE?! I think we should make ourselves heard, since the DNC has been pooh-poohing the numbers of people who say they won't support Obama.
How about a nice, tall glass of vinegar to wash down those sour grapes?
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Clinton supporters, who's with me?
I think we should make ourselves heard, since the DNC has been pooh-poohing the numbers of people who say they won't support Obama.
Offsetting factors - Exit stage left, Snagglepus
