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Old 06-12-2008, 10:42 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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It's not silliness, given the importance of the job. I remain troubled both by Mr. Obama's lack of candor and some of his supporters' near-hysterical aversion to any criticism of him.

I also dispute your view of "uneducated people." After all, many of the posters on this board who display at least normal intelligence seem to hold religous belief as a form of mental illness disqualifying anyone from leadership. Surely you do not mean to imply that these folks are "uneducated"....

Having made those points, though, I agree with much of the rest of what you say. I would certainly prefer a virtuous Muslim president over an evil Christian one.
I am merely implying that uneducated people use religion as a major factor in their decision.

A president who actually busts his hump on the job, a true public servant, immediately qualifies him for anyone with half a brain, regardless of their particular brand of faith.

In the end, Christianity/Islam/Judiasm don't matter if we drown in our debt. Bottom line: there are many other more troubling matters to deal with than getting caught up in someone's faith and perceived morality.
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Old 06-12-2008, 10:46 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Perhaps the harsh names I called in my original response to the OP message is what caused my response to be removed. However, I wish to re-state (hopefully in language that won't cause it to be removed) that, although I will not be voting for McCain and am not a McCain supporter, I think it is terribly, terribly wrong to use his courageous service to our country as a way to smear him.
Sure it's wrong. The unAmerican parasite Rove helped to swiftboat Kerry when he as a fat bald walking viagra commerical never laid a finger to defend this country.
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Old 06-12-2008, 11:09 PM
 
Location: San Antonio North
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I am merely implying that uneducated people use religion as a major factor in their decision.

A president who actually busts his hump on the job, a true public servant, immediately qualifies him for anyone with half a brain, regardless of their particular brand of faith.

In the end, Christianity/Islam/Judiasm don't matter if we drown in our debt. Bottom line: there are many other more troubling matters to deal with than getting caught up in someone's faith and perceived morality.
You apparently are "uneducated to that segment of the population. Could be to much to think the use base their vote of off their pocket book and morals? Oh no you right they only think about god.
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Old 06-12-2008, 11:11 PM
 
Location: San Antonio North
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Sure it's wrong. The unAmerican parasite Rove helped to swiftboat Kerry when he as a fat bald walking viagra commerical never laid a finger to defend this country.
The dems put up a WEAK candidate. Kerry was not electable by any part of the imagination.
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Old 06-12-2008, 11:32 PM
 
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It's "abortion", and Garner's usually has "Christian" capitalized. And did you even read the first post in this thread? The one that directly contradicts what you posted? What with the NYT article and the Koran study and whatnot?

There were koran studies at the private school that Obama went to, yes, but those classes were VOLUNTARY, and he DID NOT GO TO KORAN CLASS. Why? Because he wasn't muslim!...ohh, and the same school, that CNN did a piece on, also has and always had BIBLE STUDY classes too. Why didn't you mention that?
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Old 06-12-2008, 11:34 PM
 
Location: southern california
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america has been given a choice between 2 extremes. this is unfortunate.
but mccain has made it clear no bagdad withdraw, vietnam#2 comin up.
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Old 06-13-2008, 02:47 AM
 
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lies,lies and more lies. Obama never said such things but the internet is a racist's w h o r e.
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Old 06-13-2008, 03:34 AM
 
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Yeledaf;4088299]It's not silliness, given the importance of the job. I remain troubled both by Mr. Obama's lack of candor and some of his supporters' near-hysterical aversion to any criticism of him.
Exactly. The latter being very strange.


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I also dispute your view of "uneducated people." After all, many of the posters on this board who display at least normal intelligence seem to hold religous belief as a form of mental illness disqualifying anyone from leadership. Surely you do not mean to imply that these folks are "uneducated"....

I think we're going to see more and more of the "uneducated people" routine.

It dovetails quite nicely with the "cling to their guns, religion.....". That seems to be a hardwired belief.

Also, they don't want to wear out the ""if you don't vote for him you're a racist" routine.
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Old 06-13-2008, 04:20 AM
 
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Sure it's wrong. The unAmerican parasite Rove helped to swiftboat Kerry when he as a fat bald walking viagra commerical never laid a finger to defend this country.
I AM SORRY UNTILL YOU GET TORTURED AS NAVY SEALS, or us Rangers YOU GET TO ST#U ABOUT THAT.

HE is serving his god damn country right now. I DONT LIKE KERRY BUT we don't need punk ass kids like you saying that #@#%. WE also don't need statements such as all people who haven't served in war shouldn't make decisions on war related subjects including veterans. THANK YOU MCCAIN for saying that smart-ass statement. (I HATE HIM) MOST REPUBLICANS ARE WAR HAPPY BECAUSE OF WAR. It does things to people. YOU LOOSE SITE OF MENTAL THOUGHT. YOU also loose site of whats best for the country. SO ST#U AND DONT TALK ABOUT SERVING YOUR COUNTRY WHEN I NEVER STOP HEARING REPUBLICANS COMPLAINING ABOUT PAYING TAXES.

People trying to state Obama is a MUSLIM AFTER THAT WHOLE CHURCH UPROAR IS JUST HYPOCRITICAL. IT SHOWS REPUBLICANS IGNORANCE AND BLIND FAITH. OTHER THEN PERSON STATEMENTS I BET YOU DON'T KNOW WITHOUT LOOKING UP 1 BAD THING ABOUT OBAMA. He is a sound politicain. He isn't a populist like MCcain and Hilliary. He has never told a lie about issues or his views. He has never lied to the American people. He isn't corrupt
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Old 06-13-2008, 07:13 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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I'm not even going to post the links to the 8,000 other articles and investigations that debunk the Muslim claim, because I know you'll think that this one, and only this one is correct. Do your own research, rather than eating up what you want to hear.

(ps - the call to prayer is actually a very pretty sound, if you'd view it without hate)
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