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Old 09-21-2008, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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On Friday, our local paper carried a story about a boy in a nearby town with an unusual disease: eosinophilic esophagitis. He's basically allergic to almost all foods. His first serving of solid food at seven months nearly killed him. He has to be fed a special liquid diet through a tube every two hours, day and night ($75/day, not covered by insurance).

He's three now, and has to go out to a research facility in Ohio every three months to be tested for foods that he can tolerate. His mother hopes that by the time he is ten, they will have found five or six things he can eat.

That situation would be bad enough for any young family to face. But it isn't the worst thing.

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The costs of Jackson's care caused Christie and Steve Koger to make a life-changing decision. Their combined household income was insufficient to cover Jackson's medical costs but more than state thresholds for Medicaid eligibility.

Christie and Steve were divorced a few months ago and now live in separate households, enabling Christie to receive some state help with Jackson's medical costs. It was a heart-wrenching decision, as Christie and Steve are still very much in love.
It is absolutely horrific that people in our country have to choose an unwanted divorce just to get health care for their child. Now they have to maintain two households as well as the illusion that they are not married. I am so thoroughly disgusted by this story, and by extension, the GOP and the conservative end of the spectrum for creating this situation.

Obama's solution is not good enough, but it is at least a start (Clinton's plan was better). McCain favors business as usual, though his plan will result in many people losing their employer-based health coverage, to be replaced by a tax credit they can use to buy private health care (http://content.healthaffairs.org/cgi/content/full/hlthaff.27.6.w472/DC1 - broken link). (What about those who don't pay enough in taxes to benefit from a tax credit? They'll end up just like the family above.) Also, he wants to increase cost savings through ... wait for it ... deregulation:

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Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition, as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation.
So what is it, conservatives? Are you more pro-family, or are you more anti-socialism? In a society in which you benefit daily from socialistic programs (defense, transportation, retirement, energy, agriculture, economics, etc.) are you going to continue fighting common-sense solutions to our health care crisis?

 
Old 09-22-2008, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Idaho
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It is absolutely horrific that people in our country have to choose an unwanted divorce just to get health care for their child. Now they have to maintain two households as well as the illusion that they are not married. I am so thoroughly disgusted by this story, and by extension, the GOP and the conservative end of the spectrum for creating this situation.
It is horrific. I agree that Clinton had a much better plan in mind. The three health care plans are here for anyone questioning. Voters See Very Different Healthcare Plans from Obama, Clinton, and McCain - US News and World Report

Not that Clinton's plan matters now.

The unfortunate thing is that the conservatives will find fault in any plan that may give to those in need. It's viewed as a handout. The simple reality is that this can happen to any working class citizen. Until it hits close to home, it will undoubtedly be condemned or ignored.

Maybe this thread has gone unnoticed for 26 hours now because they may have to admit that it's anti-socialism?
 
Old 09-22-2008, 08:23 PM
 
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There's more important things than this to discuss for the right, like

- what is Obama's racial molecular breakdown - how many cells of his are black, white, muslim, etc.
- how many ways does Obama have to kill babies after they are born
- how many things can be blamed on Clinton instead of Bush
- why is Michelle Obama the blackest woman on the face of the earth
- and why value voters think Obama is the anti-Christ

Issues are for unpatriotic American haters
 
Old 09-22-2008, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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THat is awful...sad...disgusting.

Call me crazy but I believe that all sick kids deserve health care.
 
Old 09-22-2008, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Idaho
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Originally Posted by *Danielle* View Post
THat is awful...sad...disgusting.

Call me crazy but I believe that all sick kids deserve health care.
Yes and families should not have to split to give them the care that they need. You aren't crazy, you're human.
 
Old 09-22-2008, 08:35 PM
 
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Originally Posted by idahogie View Post
On Friday, our local paper carried a story about a boy in a nearby town with an unusual disease: eosinophilic esophagitis. He's basically allergic to almost all foods. His first serving of solid food at seven months nearly killed him. He has to be fed a special liquid diet through a tube every two hours, day and night ($75/day, not covered by insurance).

He's three now, and has to go out to a research facility in Ohio every three months to be tested for foods that he can tolerate. His mother hopes that by the time he is ten, they will have found five or six things he can eat.

That situation would be bad enough for any young family to face. But it isn't the worst thing.

It is absolutely horrific that people in our country have to choose an unwanted divorce just to get health care for their child. Now they have to maintain two households as well as the illusion that they are not married. I am so thoroughly disgusted by this story, and by extension, the GOP and the conservative end of the spectrum for creating this situation.

Obama's solution is not good enough, but it is at least a start (Clinton's plan was better). McCain favors business as usual, though his plan will result in many people losing their employer-based health coverage, to be replaced by a tax credit they can use to buy private health care (http://content.healthaffairs.org/cgi/content/full/hlthaff.27.6.w472/DC1 - broken link). (What about those who don't pay enough in taxes to benefit from a tax credit? They'll end up just like the family above.) Also, he wants to increase cost savings through ... wait for it ... deregulation:

So what is it, conservatives? Are you more pro-family, or are you more anti-socialism? In a society in which you benefit daily from socialistic programs (defense, transportation, retirement, energy, agriculture, economics, etc.) are you going to continue fighting common-sense solutions to our health care crisis?
Horrible.

I believe, though, that you mean "neo-conservatives"? Most true conservatives would not kick these people out the back door.
 
Old 09-22-2008, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Chicago - West Lakeview
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That is truly just horrid.
 
Old 09-22-2008, 08:39 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Originally Posted by idahogie View Post
So what is it, conservatives? Are you more pro-family, or are you more anti-socialism? In a society in which you benefit daily from socialistic programs (defense, transportation, retirement, energy, agriculture, economics, etc.) are you going to continue fighting common-sense solutions to our health care crisis?

Today's GOP is in no way conservative. Well, in no practical way. They pay lip service to the mindless "morality" of the radical religious kooks who they've decided to cater to. And that "morality" is considered to be socially conservative.

But politically and economically, they're not conservative at all. Nor are they capitalists. They've morphed into something uglier and small-minded. They've become corporatists.

The big taxpayer bail out for Wall St now being formulated is the most salient example of this. They will go to socialist extremes in order to protect the wealth of millionaires, while selling out middle America, who did nothing wrong and bears no responsibility in this entire scenario, other than to pony up a trillion dollars to protect these ultrawealthy financial geniuses from the inevitable effects of their runaway greed.

Those of you who are not millionaires and still choose to vote for McCain must have some extremely potent powers of denial at work in your heads.

The GOP today stands for two things: socialism for the wealthy and capitalism for the rest of us.

We should have paid attention to this man...

http://norbizness.com/archives/military-industrial-complex.jpg (broken link)
 
Old 09-22-2008, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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Horrible.

I believe, though, that you mean "neo-conservatives"? Most true conservatives would not kick these people out the back door.
Well, I might have said neoconservative, but TnHilltopper schooled me on that topic in this post. I'm not convinced I can use the term accurately.

However, don't conservatives believe in self-sufficiency and responsibility and no free hand-outs and all that? I think the most they would do is hold a church bake sale.
 
Old 09-22-2008, 08:57 PM
 
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Just 7-8 months earlier than the horrendous turn of events, this poor child could have been "treated" in the womb by any standard Democratic abortionist. Don't think that the public doesn't notice the trend toward eliminating birth and genetic defects through this "Democratic" method.
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