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Old 09-24-2008, 11:55 PM
 
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Ok, I can understand why they would attempt to shield and keep Palin removed from public interaction as she digs the GOP hole with every interview. But what of Joe?

Now I have seen the occasional appearance of Joe Biden over the past few weeks but in all honesty, I expected Joe Biden to come out of the gate like a doberman on too slight a chain. Yet oddly, he has been rather laid back, mellow, and extremely quiet for Joe, making me wonder, what gives.

Is the Obama camp in a similar conundrum as McCain's, where they fear giving too much leash and having it come back to bite them?

Maybe he is in the bunker next to Cheney's comparing notes?

What Do Biden and Cheney Have in Common?
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:37 AM
 
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I dunno. But it makes me laugh at and ignore all of the "Palin is stupid" threads. She may be nervous on-camera but at least she isn't insisting that FDR went on TV to talk about the Great Depression! Sheesh!
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:40 AM
 
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'nervous on-camera' and even 'stupid' is a serious understatement. If you seen the couric interview, and it wasn't even a difficult one, it was very controlled, and she was horrible, more scary horrible than funny horrible.
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:43 AM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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Biden doesn't need to attack McCain, as I thought he would. McCain's poll numbers were terrible this morning. Keeping Biden out of the public eye is no different than keeping Palin out. It's just for different reasons. Still, there's no way he's as evil as Cheney.
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:46 AM
 
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'nervous on-camera' and even 'stupid' is a serious understatement. If you seen the couric interview, and it wasn't even a difficult one, it was very controlled, and she was horrible, more scary horrible than funny horrible.
Yeah, I saw part of the interview. (I'm guessing it was a part. It was a You-Tube thing and I don't take much stock in You-Tube.) The really stupid Biden comment about FDR on TV was FAR, FAR worse.

You do get that, right? There was no TV during the Great Depression and Hoover was the president.
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:58 AM
 
Location: Jax
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Yeah, I saw part of the interview. (I'm guessing it was a part. It was a You-Tube thing and I don't take much stock in You-Tube.) The really stupid Biden comment about FDR on TV was FAR, FAR worse.

You do get that, right? There was no TV during the Great Depression and Hoover was the president.
The youtube version should be fine, they usually just take out the ads. You can watch it directly on the CBS website if you're unsure if you saw the whole interview:

One-On-One With Sarah Palin, CBS Evening News Anchor Katie Couric Interviews Alaska's Governor On The Ailing Economy - CBS News

I don't see how Biden's FDR blunder is somehow worse . It was one comment from an otherwise solid speaker - he is confident and knowledgeable, not perfect, but he can answer a question. Palin's entire interview went badly. Look at Katie Couric's face, she herself is perplexed by what is coming out of Palin's mouth.
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Old 09-25-2008, 01:11 AM
 
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While I happen to think Biden is light years ahead of all the other candidates combined in his foreign policy prowess, but lets face it, ole Joe is world renown for his foot in mouth disease. In fact, outside of my enjoying hearing him speak on foreign policy issues, I love it when he pulls his famous zingers and ends up with egg on his face.

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In a recent ABC news interview. The famously verbose senator was asked to state in 25 words or less why Democrats should nominate him. His response was 45 words. I suppose that, by Biden’s standards, coming in at just under twice his allotted length counts as a victory of sorts.
All the same, I just expected Biden to be more "out front" and assuming the role as point man and pie thrower. His almost ghost like manner of late, including his lack of a press conference just has me wondering... hummm.
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Old 09-25-2008, 01:23 AM
 
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I don't see how Biden's FDR blunder is somehow worse . It was one comment from an otherwise solid speaker...
It was more than a single comment; it was really, really stupid. Anyone who's read anything on the Great Depression knows who was president. The Coolidge/Hoover history is huge in relation to it-- HUGE! (The "television" portion of the comment is definitely forgivable... I wouldn't expect anyone to remember radio over television-- it's just not that significant... except it eludes to a lack of knowledge about WWII because everything you read about WWII has line after line about "Americans next to their radios.")

If I were within earshot of him saying something like that, I wouldn't hesitate to call him a "F'in moron." It's like "the U.S. liberating Auschwitz."

I'm not saying that either is reason not to vote for the idiots (if you think the lesser of two evils are socialist morons vs. maverick morons, so be it), but it definitely exposes a severe lack of knowledge of our most basic history... and, to me, demonstrates why history repeats itself: people just don't study history. (Edit: It's not like our history is rife with major topics. You have the Revolutionary War, The Constitution, the Civil War, WWI, Great Depression and WWII. That's 2,000 pgs of reading to get a decent overview of the big occurrences and these guys have already demonstrated they haven't read that little!)

Palin? The bar is pretty low for her. As governor of a small state, I don't expect her to know much. I don't expect her to convey an image of worldliness that someone who's gone through a slow distilling of her style as she rose through the DC political cesspool... but I expect a turd like Biden to do better than he's been doing.
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Old 09-25-2008, 04:28 AM
 
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After Joe said this, "When the stock market crashed, Franklin D. Roosevelt got on the television and didn't just talk about the, you know, the princes of greed. He said, 'Look, here's what happened.", the funniest part was that just before the previous statement he said, "Part of what a leader does is to instill confidence is demonstrate that he or she knows what they're talking about and communicates to people,.."

Ole Joe doesn't seem to demonstrate that he knows what he's talking about.
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Old 09-25-2008, 05:07 AM
 
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After Joe said this, "When the stock market crashed, Franklin D. Roosevelt got on the television and didn't just talk about the, you know, the princes of greed. He said, 'Look, here's what happened.", the funniest part was that just before the previous statement he said, "Part of what a leader does is to instill confidence is demonstrate that he or she knows what they're talking about and communicates to people,.."

Ole Joe doesn't seem to demonstrate that he knows what he's talking about.
He's better when he's sober.
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