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Old 10-04-2008, 08:57 PM
 
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The American dream always stood for working hard and get a better life, which also means a better income and being able to life the life you really want. Most people associate it with more money.....work hard and/or be an entrepeneur and when you succeed you can enjoy retirement at a younger age, if you want.

Many people I have met in this great country are trying to work very hard to save money so they can retire at a younger age and travel or do other things they want to enjoy.

That is the American dream (and stay healthy of course)


Obama's American dream is....you work hard, make more money and the government will give it to people who either don't work or haven't given much effort in school than playing games, hanging out with losers, and never gave as much effort as the people who really worked their A$$ off or took a risk and succeeded....of course there are people who tried and didn't succeed for whatever reason.

Obama's American Dream take money from the most risk taking people and people who worked the hardest and give it to others....Wow...is that what we want?

It isn't like everybody bought a lotery ticket and hit the jackpot on a $ 1.- ticket and got $ 100 million andhas to give much more away, than the people who earn under $ 250 K....the people who obama is targeting are hard working people.
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Old 10-04-2008, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Middle Creek Township
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Simple. Obama's dream is the same as all Libs. Take all the money from all the hard working people and give it away to people that are lazy, destroying the urge to work hard and make life better for yourself and your family. Basically.....COMMUNISM.
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Old 10-04-2008, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Nevada
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Default McCain/Palin 2008 for safe Change

obama is full of lies! So is his sidekick VP.
I felt Palin won the debate, then i got fed up when Biden lied, and lied! And lied some more!


Joe Biden's Lies during Palin debate!

1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way” as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.

2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.

3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.”

4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage.

5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.

6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain’s record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.

7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people's health insurance coverage -- they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false

8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska -- she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it's not a windfall profits tax.

9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO's International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan.

10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation -- he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.

11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was “dead wrong on Iraq”, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they John McCain has been proven right.

12. TAX INCREASES: Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn’t see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more.

13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of “part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20.”

14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won't pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan.
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Old 10-04-2008, 09:28 PM
LML
 
Location: Wisconsin
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The American dream always stood for working hard and get a better life, which also means a better income and being able to life the life you really want. Most people associate it with more money.....work hard and/or be an entrepeneur and when you succeed you can enjoy retirement at a younger age, if you want.

Many people I have met in this great country are trying to work very hard to save money so they can retire at a younger age and travel or do other things they want to enjoy.

That is the American dream (and stay healthy of course)


Obama's American dream is....you work hard, make more money and the government will give it to people who either don't work or haven't given much effort in school than playing games, hanging out with losers, and never gave as much effort as the people who really worked their A$$ off or took a risk and succeeded....of course there are people who tried and didn't succeed for whatever reason.

Obama's American Dream take money from the most risk taking people and people who worked the hardest and give it to others....Wow...is that what we want?

It isn't like everybody bought a lotery ticket and hit the jackpot on a $ 1.- ticket and got $ 100 million andhas to give much more away, than the people who earn under $ 250 K....the people who obama is targeting are hard working people.

That you would EVEN have the NERVE to write this just a day after Bush/McCain...the great deregulators......had THEIR policies result in taking 700 BILLION dollars from the hard working tax payers and turn it over to the spoiled, rich, corrupt bunch of buddies they have already given billions in tax breaks to is beyond belief. WOW. Talk about drinking the kool aid.
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Old 10-04-2008, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Great post positive one
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Old 10-04-2008, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Middle Creek Township
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That you would EVEN have the NERVE to write this just a day after Bush/McCain...the great deregulators......had THEIR policies result in taking 700 BILLION dollars from the hard working tax payers and turn it over to the spoiled, rich, corrupt bunch of buddies they have already given billions in tax breaks to is beyond belief. WOW. Talk about drinking the kool aid.

Except it was Barney Frank and the Dems "regulation" policy that caused the problem. Do your homework first. The government forced banks to make loans to minorities and low income people, all in an effort to help them. Bill Clinton brought up this issue and his own party told him to stuff it. Then the Bush administration held hearings on Freddie & Fannie to straighten them out. Barney Frank shut that down in 2004. He claimed there was no issue with Freddie & Fannie and it was just the mean Republicans trying to stop poor people from buying homes. Well....now look. The problem was over regulation. Forcing banks to make bad loans and the government guaranteeing them. If a loan is not guaranteed, a bank would not make it. Again, the government caused it and Barney Frank(D) would not allow the problem to be fixed. On top of that, Obama's economic adviser is the jerk that walked away with tens of millions of tax payers dollars out of the deal.

Here, look at your Dems in 2004 refusing to admit there was a problem. Evidence is great....isn't it? To bad the left wing media won't show this. Is there any doubt now that the media is biased? Do you want that kool aid now?


YouTube - 2004 House Committee Hearing!
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Old 10-04-2008, 09:40 PM
 
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Charlton, don't even try, the Moonbat is beyond help. It rained today, Bush caused it.
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Old 10-04-2008, 09:42 PM
 
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Obamas plan is reward scumbag losers and steal from the rest of us.

Funny how he seems to find write offs so he can get in under that tax loopholes.

He even writes off for a farm. He has never saw a farm in his life.

His American Dream is to change America into another country, turn freedom into communistic control and have him control everything we do.

He is mighty dangerous people, he should have been gone a long time ago.

He is one scary person who wants to screw America over just like his mom, his buddy Ayers and so many other people in his life.

Time to get the RAID out and get rid of the roach named Obama.
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Old 10-04-2008, 09:44 PM
 
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That you would EVEN have the NERVE to write this just a day after Bush/McCain...the great deregulators......had THEIR policies result in taking 700 BILLION dollars from the hard working tax payers and turn it over to the spoiled, rich, corrupt bunch of buddies they have already given billions in tax breaks to is beyond belief. WOW. Talk about drinking the kool aid.

And the dems added in more pork then 10 countries!!!!

READ THE 2009 DEMOCRATIC Budget, the dems are already spending us into a depression.
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Old 10-04-2008, 09:45 PM
 
Location: OC, CA
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obama is full of lies! So is his sidekick VP.
I felt Palin won the debate, then i got fed up when Biden lied, and lied! And lied some more!


Joe Biden's Lies during Palin debate!

1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way” as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.

2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.

3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.”

4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage.

5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.

6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain’s record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.

7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people's health insurance coverage -- they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false

8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska -- she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it's not a windfall profits tax.

9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO's International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan.

10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation -- he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.

11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was “dead wrong on Iraq”, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they John McCain has been proven right.

12. TAX INCREASES: Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn’t see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more.

13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of “part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20.”

14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won't pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan.
Unfortunately, the American people did not all go "hey that was a lie Joe!" Its sad that you can get away with a lie in a debate. Thats when the moderator should have stepped in. Oh wait, thats right, shes writing that book "My meoirs of black America and how I want Obama to win the presidency." She wouldn't have stepped in during a gaffe.
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