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By the way, the Great Depression could have been a lot less terrible if the Democratic Congress at the time wouldn't have pushed more money on bankers and industry.
Wasn't the goal for bankers and industry to start lending and hiring? What was the alternative? What did they do instead, or was it too late to make a difference by then? Serious questions.
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I guess I see what you're looking for here. The general election really couldn't have gone much better for the Democrats. I congratulate you. But your party still can't quite celebrate just yet. The gay members and their supporters were dealt serious set backs buy having DOMAs enacted in several states. The peace at any price crowd got a huge slap in the face when Robert Gates was kept on as Secretary of Defense and James Jones named as National Security Adviser. Looks like all that anti-war stuff was just to get votes. And I guess he doesn't want any more pastor problems because he picked Rick Warren to give the invocation at his inauguration. NARAL and GLAAD most be really upset about that. Maybe they'll come around. I guess Clinton got a gig anyways. That's good right? Still she isn't any closer to the presidency. I guess that glass ceiling is still hanging over her head. The tax increase on fat cats is DOA along with telecom accountability and a quick withdrawal from Iraq. Looks like the only one trying to change parties is Obama. Have a nice day.
First of all Obama ran on the fact that he believes "marriage" is to be reserved for a man and a woman. That is what he said and has on his website. He has never ONCE endorsed the idea that a man should marry a man. He has stated- and I am sure will carry out- that is 100% in favour of full civil rights for gays including civil union rights, the right to not be discriminated against in employment, housing or other areas and- yes- the right to join and serve in the Armed Forces of the United States which I am sure will become policy in the opening days of his Presidency (in my view it should be the first order he signs). This is Obama's view, it is also my view and it probably is the view of many Americans.
On Robert Gates, it was my belief that anybody that had a policy level job when this war was started- and was for it- should be replaced. I do not know what Gate's role was in starting the Iraq war but if Obama feels that he needs Gates to END the war, I will go along. The important thing is the goal- Obama has stated that all our troops will be out of there in 16 months. Bush has signed an agreement with the Iraqi government saying 24 months. Whether it ends up being 16 or 24 I don't care as long as all the troops are out of there. If the Republicans had their way, we'd be there permananetly.
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Mike,
Why do you think that the U.S. should be ruled by Democrats?
Do you think that Democrats should run unchecked? If so please explain your afinity to the said party.
Would your dream Congress make you more or less free?
Do you really care, or do you want to see America become a one sided country?
What's good for Boston is good for the rest of the country?
Shame on you.
What is good for Boston IS good for the country. Boston has some of the most educated people in the world with so many high caliber universities there. If we had those kinds of brains in ALL the country, we'd have fewer troubles.
What is good for Boston IS good for the country. Boston has some of the most educated people in the world with so many high caliber universities there. If we had those kinds of brains in ALL the country, we'd have fewer troubles.
You couldn't be more wrong. A lot of people with high IQs are worthless as politicians. I don't care how 'smart' someone is. I look at their ideas. For example, Governor Granholm (MI) was an honors student at Cal and Harvard Law. I'd imagine Obama was a good student as well (won't release his transcripts), but his ideas are not good for the country. Boston has a bidget deficit of nearly $ 100 M and Massachusetts has a deficit of $ 2 B +. Keep in mind, Governor Patrick (MA) is also a Harvard Law Graduate. He was probably a great student as well.
These aren't normal times. Do not expect normal behavior. Anything can happen. It's happened before. Just today the RNC issued a proclamation that their own GOP sitting president is a Socialist. The GOP is in a world of crap. Rank and file members are switching to Libertarian or DEM or Other parties. It is within the realm of reasonable thought to think that there may be one or more party switchers if the DEMs offer a plum assignment / enticement. Getting that 60th vote is the holy grail now for the DEMs, look for a full court press to get someone to come over.
If the Democrats get everything they want, they will tax, spend and print this country into oblivion. Not that the GOP did much better. That said, the fact that the GOP did poorly is not an excuse for the Dems to make mistake. They'll handout so much (which sounds good), but we can not afford it. The deficit and debt will explode under Obama and the dollar will collapse. The Democrats will beheld responsible. They'll tell people they had to go more into debt and devalue the dollar b/c of the Bush administration and only the people dumb enough to believe this will. Unfortunately, there are many such people.
Getting back to the original question. I do believe that Maine's 2 female GOP senators [Snowe & Collins] could easily become Democrat & will probably vote with the Democrats anyway. What's pathetic to the Republicans is that an entire section of the nation\ Northeast has gradually & deliberately switch over to the Democrats. There is no credible moderate wing in the GOP & those who can't go along with the Bible Belt\ anti-science\ anti-education\ anti-gays Republicans who control the party, are leaving. Libertarians voted for Obama & have basically left the GOP.
Maybe Congressman Ron Paul will become Democrat. Some of those that desperately ran from Bush & embraced the Democrats lost anyway [ie Senator Gordon Smith - Oregon] in state's uncomfortable with Republicans. I think more congress people & senators will vote with the Democrats & water down whatever influence the GOP may have against Obama\ Pelosi\ Reed.
Recently a top GOP consultant wrote that the Republican party was dead in California & another GOP leader disagreed by pointing out that Prop 8 passed. Isn't it pathetic that the Republicans only win by instilling fear & hate & just plain ignorance? And that other Republican leader is a Mormon bishop
Why do you think that the U.S. should be ruled by Democrats?
Do you think that Democrats should run unchecked? If so please explain your afinity to the said party.
Would your dream Congress make you more or less free?
Do you really care, or do you want to see America become a one sided country?
What's good for Boston is good for the rest of the country?
Shame on you.
I hear mostly fear in your voice, probably because you've been sold the usual GOP bill of goods. What I want is enough votes in the Senate to invoke cloture, i.e., to NOT let the GOP filibuster a bill to death. We need bills to get passed so this country can get OUT of the hellish partisan gridlock that we've seen for 20+ years in DC.
It's time to MOVE ON with fixing what is wrong, and to stop the GOP from larding up every bill with tons-o-pork for their corrupt thieving pals. The only reason the bailout bill got passed was because the DEMs had to allow $150B in GOP pork (tax giveaways to producers of Rum) to stop the GOP from a filibuster. The GOP are thieves.
The GOP has to be put in its place, and a 60-vote Senate majority is the way to do it, so we can move forward as a nation, though its now a much longer road due to what the Bush crowd has done to us all.
If the Democrats get everything they want, they will tax, spend and print this country into oblivion. Not that the GOP did much better. That said, the fact that the GOP did poorly is not an excuse for the Dems to make mistake. They'll handout so much (which sounds good), but we can not afford it. The deficit and debt will explode under Obama and the dollar will collapse. The Democrats will beheld responsible. They'll tell people they had to go more into debt and devalue the dollar b/c of the Bush administration and only the people dumb enough to believe this will. Unfortunately, there are many such people.
All these things you want to blame Obama for, in ADVANCE, have been done to us ALREADY - and by your hero Bush. You have to be kdding us, or be a troll, to believe what you write. Bush has already handed out TRILLIONS of tax money, current and future, yet you blame a guy who isn't even in office yet. Are you dreaming?
Stop posting ancient GOP talking points based on fear that the OTHER guy is going to tax and spend. Bush has DOUBLED the national debt, which is nothing but a backdoor tax, of HUGE proportions, on YOU and YOUR kids and YOUR grandkids, all of whom will be impoverished by these punishing debt loads. BUSH did it to you! NOT Obama.
I hope the DEMs get their 60 votes in the Senate, so we can stop working to make the wealthy even wealthier, so we can put real people back to work, so we can get on with alternative energy production to get us off Saudi oil, so we can finally track down Bin Laden, and so much more that has taken a backseat to partisan gridlock in Congress. No matter what the DEMs do, I'm sure you'll be firing out hategrams the whole time, even if things go well.
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