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Old 01-09-2009, 11:45 AM
 
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Don't like the story, attack the source. When a more liberal source is provided, continue to attack the original source.
yes indeed

Black group allegedly intimidated voters - UPI.com

cbs3.com - Feds File Voter Intimidation Suit In Philadelphia (http://cbs3.com/topstories/voter.intimidation.new.2.902908.html - broken link)
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Old 01-09-2009, 12:52 PM
 
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Ok and the significance of is?
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Old 01-09-2009, 12:55 PM
 
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They SHOULD investigate this.

I don't think any of this crap changed anything about the election.

But you can darned well be certain that if the KKK (the white equivalent of the Panthers) had been standing in front of polling places, pacing around with clubs in hand, there would have been hell to pay. And should have!


So investigate it. Wrap it up. Take whatever actions necessary. Move on.
Is the OP suggesting these couple of guys made the difference nationally and secured the election for Obama? Ok it happened and the DOJ is dealing with it.
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Old 01-09-2009, 12:55 PM
 
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Ok and the significance of is?
Some said it never happened, back during the election. Voter intimidation is serious, and not to be taken lightly.
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Old 01-09-2009, 01:03 PM
 
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Is the OP suggesting these couple of guys made the difference nationally and secured the election for Obama? Ok it happened and the DOJ is dealing with it.
The OP isn't suggesting anything. It's simply a link.
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Old 01-09-2009, 01:04 PM
 
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I remember when this happened. I'll bet the defense argument will be that they were seeking to deter voter intimidation.

I didnt watch either video in the OP but the second one I *have* seen, the one with the two white guys approaching the two Black Panther guys and asking them questions. IIRC one of the black guys actually says they're protecting against intimidation (could be misremembering though).

If this even goes to court, if they have a good lawyer, if there's nothing mitigating, they could get off with the lawyer painting a picture of the high emotions running at that time especially in black and urban neighborhoods; he'll remind the judge that the DNC sent 5000 lawyers to FL to protect against intimidation at the polls. He'll also make good use of the person who called police.

Im putting my chips on: they use this strategy and they get off, if it even goes to court.
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Old 01-09-2009, 01:05 PM
 
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Some said it never happened, back during the election. Voter intimidation is serious, and not to be taken lightly.
I saw video footage of it, on the local news, on Election Day.

Like I said earlier, the presence of those lowlife thugs didn't change anything about the election. But it's a precedent that cannot be set.
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Old 01-09-2009, 01:05 PM
 
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Recall watching the news at the time that the two men were OUTSIDE the polling place and NOT INSIDE where a person can vote.

They had NO way of knowing which way a person was voting inside.

I was NOT there and if I were they would not have stopped me from entering and voting cause all hell would break loose if they tried to stop me.

Steve
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Old 01-09-2009, 01:06 PM
 
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In case anyone was wondering if this was covered here...

Black Panthers are Intimidating Voters in PA & OH

The Obamabots wouldn't believe this occurred, then mocked it, then called other posters racist...

Honestly, it's pretty much how every thread goes down in this forum.
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Old 01-09-2009, 01:13 PM
 
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From afar, it looks like witness intimidation | Philadelphia Daily News | 01/09/2009 (http://www.philly.com/dailynews/local/20090109_From_afar__it_looks_like_witness_intimida tion.html - broken link)
City police didn't charge them with any crime. And the District Attorney's Office received no complaints about their behavior.
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Yesterday, Shabazz said that he had visited that site because "the community asked" for him.

"We had gotten calls earlier that morning that people in the community were getting harassed by neo-Nazis and skinheads," he said. "We were asked to secure the area, and that's what we done. We weren't saying anything; we weren't doing anything to violate anyone's civil rights or right to vote. Even the mayor and the D.A. spoke out on our behalf, somewhat."

Several news and amateur videos of the supremacists show them standing in black berets, boots and military garb, occasionally talking with news reporters. In one online video, a man can be seen nonchalantly entering the building behind the Panthers.

But according to the feds' nine-page complaint filed Wednesday, Shabazz menacingly tapped a nightstick in his hand throughout his "deployment" there. The complaint further charges that Shabazz and Jackson tried to block access to the building and hurled racial threats and insults at white and black voters and poll workers.
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Scot Montrey, a spokesman for the department's civil-rights division, declined to say what sparked the federal complaint, when local authorities had decided that no offense had occurred.
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