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Old 02-28-2009, 08:59 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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If you don't want to drive the train, don't become an engineer.
No one forced these people to choose a profession that might require them to 'compromise' their principles.

You don't find letting someone suffer when you have sworn an oath to do no harm morally repugnant?

Better to let someone die so that you don't have to sully yourself doing a blood transfusion?

Any idea how many lawsuits this could have triggered?
The notion the abortion industry is about "freedom of choice" is nothing but the height of absurdity and this is yet more evidence. But where's the surprise, its origins is in the eugenics movement, of course those leading it want to force it on everyone. You're worse than the Nazis, the Nazis never forced men to take part in the holocaust, they always allowed people (except prisoners) to not take part. You would force people to do what they consider murder (abortion).
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Old 02-28-2009, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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So you simply want to force your views on others and make them do things they find morally repugnant.
Did you read the article? Healthcare workers can still refuse to perform abortions. The right to lifers took it a step further by refusing to provide info on family planning and contraceptives, preventive measures that actually prevent abortions. As long as the health care providers take federal money they need to follow the law. Next up the administration needs to go after churches that get involved in politics. They don't deserve tax breaks.
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"Current law protects healthcare workers who do not want to perform abortions."...
"We recognize and understand that some providers have objections to providing abortions. We want to ensure that current law protects them," the official said.
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Old 02-28-2009, 09:04 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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Did you read the article? Healthcare workers can still refuse to perform abortions. The right to lifers took it a step further by refusing to provide info on family planning and contraceptives, preventive measures that actually prevent abortions. As long as the health care providers take federal money they need to follow the law. Next up the administration needs to go after churches that get involved in politics. They don't deserve tax breaks.
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"Current law protects healthcare workers who do not want to perform abortions."...
"We recognize and understand that some providers have objections to providing abortions. We want to ensure that current law protects them," the official said.
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Splitting hairs because many see them the same.
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Old 02-28-2009, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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If you don't want to drive the train, don't become an engineer.
No one forced these people to choose a profession that might require them to 'compromise' their principles.
Bingo. Let them go into some other profession or find another job in healthcare that doesn't revolve around abortion, family planning or contraception. Right now there is still a demand for healthcare workers and schools are turning people away. We won't have a problem filling these jobs.
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Old 02-28-2009, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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So you simply want to force your views on others and make them do things they find morally repugnant.
I find much of the bush agenda morally repugnant. For example, the citizens and soldiers killed in Iraq. We obviously use different criteria in assessing what is moral repugnance.
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Old 02-28-2009, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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The notion the abortion industry is about "freedom of choice" is nothing but the height of absurdity and this is yet more evidence. But where's the surprise, its origins is in the eugenics movement, of course those leading it want to force it on everyone. You're worse than the Nazis, the Nazis never forced men to take part in the holocaust, they always allowed people (except prisoners) to not take part. You would force people to do what they consider murder (abortion).
I wouldn't force anyone to do anything. Don't want to do that job, get another job.

Again, if you don't want to perform the duties of a soldier, don't join the Army. Don't want to rush into burning buildings, don't become a firefighter.

Don't want to perform abortions, or assist in their performance, don't get a job at a hospital or health center that provides this service.
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Old 02-28-2009, 11:04 AM
 
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So you simply want to force your views on others and make them do things they find morally repugnant.
60 years ago a doctor could refuse, with impunity, to treat a black person.
Do you think that moral view was repugnant?

Whats the difference?
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Old 02-28-2009, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Irvine, CA to Keller, TX
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Makes you wonder how many religious hospitals will close their doors rather than kill babies. What a state of panic we would be in if that happens!
...and deservedly so.
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Old 02-28-2009, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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So you simply want to force your views on others and make them do things they find morally repugnant.
Nope. If you're a doctor, and you believe in and are motivated by mythology, I'd rather you quit. So if a policy - one that makes you perform medical procedures without imposing your "morality" on others - strikes you as morally repugnant, then that's a good thing.
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Old 02-28-2009, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Earth
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The notion the abortion industry is about "freedom of choice" is nothing but the height of absurdity and this is yet more evidence. But where's the surprise, its origins is in the eugenics movement, of course those leading it want to force it on everyone. You're worse than the Nazis, the Nazis never forced men to take part in the holocaust, they always allowed people (except prisoners) to not take part. You would force people to do what they consider murder (abortion).
Abortions have been around for centuries.
No one forces a doctor or nurse to perform abortions.

You agree with the possibility of women being refused birth control or another prescribed drug because some man doesn't believe she should have the option to use it?
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