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Old 05-01-2009, 10:28 AM
 
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Old 05-01-2009, 10:33 AM
 
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I register as a Republican, as do many in my "circle". However, I think of myself in closer terms as libertarian.

I'm hearing whispers about a new party emerging... a "Patriot" party. Kind of like libertarians who understand foreign policy.

Now THAT'S something I could get behind!
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Old 05-01-2009, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Whenever a group claims to be "Patriots" I get very worried. Patriot Parties are generally founded by political opportunists that never have the good of the entire country or people in mind.
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Old 05-01-2009, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Virginia
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I register as a Republican, as do many in my "circle". However, I think of myself in closer terms as libertarian.

I'm hearing whispers about a new party emerging... a "Patriot" party. Kind of like libertarians who understand foreign policy.

Now THAT'S something I could get behind!
I'd love to see something like that happen. I like the name "Patriot Party", although the name "Republican" could be up for grabs soon. I hear the GOP is going to rebrand themselves, look back to the past for a party name that describes them better. In other words, the "Know-Nothing Party."
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Old 05-01-2009, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Texas
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There was a recent poll that showed the number of people who identify with the GOP has actually increased recently.

Personally, I call myself a Republican (we don't register with a party in TX) and typically vote about 75% Repub-25% Dem. I'm more conservative than liberal, but do have some liberal views and some views that are very, very different from those in the Republican platform.

I wish everyone both in real life and on this forum could be less partisan and more willing to fight for what they really believe in. People need to think about their true beliefs...not merely copy what a certain party believes. End the obsessive classification of Americans!
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Old 05-01-2009, 04:58 PM
 
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Check out the chart ( GOP red) and the trend over the last 6 years of those identifying themselves as Republicans. Almost gives one hope they might disappear entirely one day.



The Incredible Shrinking GOP: Party Shrunk By One-Fourth In Five Years | The Plum Line
I'm going to assume your not preferring a one party system.
Anyone why would want government to be a one party system doesn't have a drop of common sense, and frankly is not smart enough to vote.
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Old 05-01-2009, 05:44 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Check out the chart ( GOP red) and the trend over the last 6 years of those identifying themselves as Republicans. Almost gives one hope they might disappear entirely one day.



The Incredible Shrinking GOP: Party Shrunk By One-Fourth In Five Years | The Plum Line
I would remind you that it wasn't too many years ago (1994 and following) that the Democrat Party looked like it was the "incredible shrinking" party, with party switchers going from the Democrat Party to the Republican Party, and Newt Gingrich and the "Contract With America" (which was brilliant) having just accomplished what was thought to be the impossible; winning back the House in a mid-term election. Then they proceeded to balance the Federal budget by cutting the growth of spending across the board (they cut nothing; they reduced the percentage of growth in the "baseline" budgeting) and by cutting taxes across the board. This resulted in a net increase in Federal revenue (it always does). Bill Clinton always gets the credit for balancing the budget, but until the Republicans took over the House in 1994, he had increasing deficits as far as the eye could see.

I would add, however, that even these deficits were minuscule compared to Obama's.

So, I wouldn't be to quick to revel in this apparent "shrinking" GOP. We have a golden opportunity, once again. Few people support Obama's policies and "agenda". Polls show this to be true: that they like him, as a person, but disagree with his policies.

In the most recent "generic poll" Republican led Democrats. This is a huge gain, given the fact that they were dead even in the last one, and given that it usually isn't the case at all so early in a new President's term. This is an indication that the "honeymoon" is clearly over, and people do not like what they see happening.

Finally, almost no one, I'm sure (exept perhaps you), would believe that a one party system would be better for America. There is a clear difference between Repulican ideology and Democrat ideology. Democrats have always been for big and intrusive government. Republicans, speaking historically, have always been for a limited Federal government, as outlined in the Constitution.

What has happened to the Republican Party is this so-called "big tent" theory, which has allowed the Party to accept and even support "liberal" ideas, which are anathema to Republican ideology. This has been to their detriment, and Arlen Spector is just one example. John McCain is another, as is Lindsay Graham, and I'm sure one could name quite a few others.

Purging the Party of these RINO's is good. We are seeing a resurgence at the grass roots of real conservatism, which is exactly what the Tea Parties are about. The so-called "liberal" (read progressive) left is scared to death of what these Tea Parties mean, which is why they have pulled every stop to paint them as "extremist right wingers", "anti-American", etc, etc. In reality, they are more American than we have seen in any movement in many years. They couldn't be more pro-America, pro-individual liberty, pro-entrepreneurship, and everything that is what America has always been about.

This is why Democrats fear them. They must marginalize and disparage them, much like they have done, and are still doing to Sarah Palin, and those like her, who reflect the true spirit of our founders, and are bent on preserving what they entrusted to us to pass on to generation, after generation.
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Old 05-01-2009, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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In order for the Republican Party to remain viable they must greatly distance themselves from the likes of Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, the late Rev. Jerry Falwell, George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, etc. Many moderates, including myself (as a fiscal conservative and social liberal) consider the Republicans to be the "party of religious fundamentalists," and most educated people know that a theocracy is NOT the path America needs to tread down in order to rebuild itself. I will NOT vote for any legislative branch candidate that knowingly pledges to permit his or her religious beliefs influence the way they vote on new legislation. Politicians are elected to serve ALL the people---not just those who subscribe to their own personal religious orientations.
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Old 05-01-2009, 05:59 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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I'm going to assume your not preferring a one party system.
Anyone why would want government to be a one party system doesn't have a drop of common sense, and frankly is not smart enough to vote.
This is exactly right. A "one party" system would be tyranny. The American system was not designed to be anything other than a two party system, with checks and balances to prevent the kind of power the left has today (or will surely have if they have a filibuster proof majority).

A "one party" system would mean that many Americans would be left with no representation at all.
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Old 05-01-2009, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Mount Dora, FL
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This is exactly right. A "one party" system would be tyranny. The American system was not designed to be anything other than a two party system, with checks and balances to prevent the kind of power the left has today (or will surely have if they have a filibuster proof majority).

A "one party" system would mean that many Americans would be left with no representation at all.
Booo--whooo---whooo....
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