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Old 05-27-2009, 08:20 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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He is already not living up to the promises....but his followers still follow him.

As to 2012,you think some other Dem contender would dare run against him as sitting POTUS?
Explain to me how he has not lived up to the promises, because in the first few months he was in office, he came through on several very quickly that I was waiting for.

So? I'm not going to vote for someone I don't support. If he does not live up to my expectations, I will not vote for him again, simple as that.
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Old 05-27-2009, 08:21 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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My my my. It looks llike hussein obama is a warmonger, just like Bush, huh! What's a liberal to do?
Oh wow, look what you did, calling him Hussein! Like Saddam! I get it! That's original!!!!!

(Hate to break it to you, but he has always said we were going to shift over to Afghanistan - which is where we should have been focusing our troops in the first place, IMO)
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Old 05-27-2009, 08:27 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Explain to me how he has not lived up to the promises, because in the first few months he was in office, he came through on several very quickly that I was waiting for.

So? I'm not going to vote for someone I don't support. If he does not live up to my expectations, I will not vote for him again, simple as that.
He promised those who support him everything under the sun....I personally do not have the energy or interest to go through and find his broken promises(although detention without trial comes to mind).

If you do not vote for Obama,who will you vote for,the Repub candidate?
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Old 05-27-2009, 08:29 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Uh oh......

THAT is going to require a lot of spin and backpedaling by his adoring supporters.


WHY? Because we might actually prepare for any possibility?

No where does it say we're going to stay a decade.

The ONLY spin going on here are the NeoConfused trying to create an issue where none exists. The bright side is soon they'll get dizzy and fall down
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Old 05-27-2009, 08:34 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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He promised those who support him everything under the sun....I personally do not have the energy or interest to go through and find his broken promises(although detention without trial comes to mind).

If you do not vote for Obama,who will you vote for,the Repub candidate?
Detention without trial has not happened, it is simply something that was spoken about as a hypothetical (as are the scenarios in the linked article), and I will absolutely 100% not agree with that if it happens.

I will vote for the best candidate. There are other parties besides D/R as well. If a moderate Republican ran, I'd consider voting for them, yes.
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Old 05-27-2009, 08:38 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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WHY? Because we might actually prepare for any possibility?

No where does it say we're going to stay a decade.

The ONLY spin going on here are the NeoConfused trying to create an issue where none exists. The bright side is soon they'll get dizzy and fall down
Could you provide where Obama stated the possibility of US troops remaining in Iraq for decades BEFORE he was elected?

Thanks.
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Old 05-27-2009, 08:49 AM
 
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Could you provide where Obama stated the possibility of US troops remaining in Iraq for decades BEFORE he was elected?

Thanks.
Decades? The linked article suggests a possibility of 10 units staying for 10 years.

Also, he never stated that every single last troop would be removed.

If a threat to the US emerged from Iraq suddenly, you'd say he should pull all troops out regardless simply because that was his campaign promise?

There is always a .00001% possibility. And you judge his actions based on the task at hand and make the decision for yourself.
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Old 05-27-2009, 08:52 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Seems the left didn't feel this way when that other guy was in office...or when McSame was running...

Weird.

To add,you know those few thousand troops in the Balkans(probably not),well anyway that was a ONE year deployment.....back in the late 1990's...
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Old 05-27-2009, 08:52 AM
 
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My my my. It looks llike hussein obama is a warmonger, just like Bush, huh! What's a liberal to do?


try reading the article.
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Old 05-27-2009, 08:52 AM
 
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Here is the exact statement from his campaign website:

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Barack Obama's policy for bringing U.S. troops home from Iraq as stated on his Web site:

"Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months. Obama will make it clear that we will not build any permanent bases in Iraq. He will keep some troops in Iraq to protect our embassy and diplomats; if al Qaeda attempts to build a base within Iraq, he will keep troops in Iraq or elsewhere in the region to carry out targeted strikes on al Qaeda."
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