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Old 06-25-2009, 07:14 AM
 
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I will blame Bush for one huge problem that he both caused and left America to deal with. If we live through it and come out not totally destroyed by it, I might forgive him.

What I blame Bush for is Obama. If he would not have run away from conservatism we would not have to live through the Obama trials and tribulations.
This post nailed it. Bush was NOT a conservative, by any means. If he were conservative, he would not have added $ 3 T to the public debt over 8 years. He would not have signed Medicare part D or NCLB into law. He would not have created DHS or attempted amnesty for illegals. He would not have bailed out any institutions!
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Old 06-25-2009, 07:57 AM
 
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The biggest consequence of Bush is Obama without a doubt. I hope we can survive Obama and his statist policies that will destroy America's free-market ideals.
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Old 06-25-2009, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Western North Carolina
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His phoney baloney "Town Hall" meetings where all of the audience and questions were staged and rehearsed as he tried desperately to tell us we needed to turn over our Social Security trust fund to his special interest friends on Wall Street to manage it! People with dissenting opinions were not allowed in, and anyone asking a question not pre-approved was escorted from the "Town Hall".

That was the most dispicable thing I ever saw him do. He was a bought-and-paid for dimwit who hurt this country and did nothing but enrich the rich.
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Old 06-25-2009, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Highland, CA (formerly Newark, NJ)
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That he was basically the first president in a long time to use facist-esque fears tactics to whip a country's rationale into going to a pointless war. Thanks Dubya!
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Old 06-25-2009, 10:01 AM
 
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What will you remember most about Bush?
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Bush was the last president we had before the America-hating, socialist, doofus Obama.
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Old 06-25-2009, 11:01 AM
 
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That he was a moron
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Old 06-25-2009, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Highland, CA (formerly Newark, NJ)
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The biggest consequence of Bush is Obama without a doubt. I hope we can survive Obama and his statist policies that will destroy America's free-market ideals.
The free-market ideals destroyed themselves. Lack of government oversight had led to housing and banking failures. If it weren't for Obama with some sort of intervention the bridge between poor and rich would be further gapped. He's not running it as though he's a socialist, it's an attempt at stimulating business and the economy from the ground up without letting business shoot itself in the foot again. It's basically the same thing Roosevelt did in 1932.
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Old 06-25-2009, 03:38 PM
 
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The free-market ideals destroyed themselves. Lack of government oversight had led to housing and banking failures. If it weren't for Obama with some sort of intervention the bridge between poor and rich would be further gapped. He's not running it as though he's a socialist, it's an attempt at stimulating business and the economy from the ground up without letting business shoot itself in the foot again. It's basically the same thing Roosevelt did in 1932.
You're completely wrong. Try reading Meltdown by Thomas Woods or watching some Peter Schiff clips on You Tube. We have lost more than 2 million jobs since Obama was inaugurated and, if Cap and Trade passes, that number will get much larger. We'll probably have lost 4-5 million jobs under Obama until we start adding jobs month-to-month.

How did the free market destroy itself when we never had free markets? If we did, we would have not bailed out anyone or done any stimuli. If we had a free market, the Fed would not have lowered interest rates (without which none of this would happened).
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Old 06-25-2009, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Highland, CA (formerly Newark, NJ)
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How did the free market destroy itself when we never had free markets? If we did, we would have not bailed out anyone or done any stimuli. If we had a free market, the Fed would not have lowered interest rates (without which none of this would happened).
False.

Market had as much dictation on the country as the president did until 1932. And guess what happened a few years before? Free market, reckless spending on the consumers' behalf and lack of regulation of banks and boom the Great Depression. Years of Lassiez-Faire policy on behalf of Bush have led to the current housing meltdown and if not for intervention, stimulus packages and bailouts, unemployment would be even higher.
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Old 06-25-2009, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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I will go back to the beginning, and remember that he didn't actually win the election of 2000 in the first place. (My parents were living in Palm Beach County, Florida, where the whole business of the "hanging chads" became such an issue. Two months after election day, out of the public glare, they did a final recount...and guess what? Al Gore won the election! But you didn't hear a peep about moving the Usurper from the White House.)
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